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To: Blackirish
Rudy does have that temperament. He slapped around the establishment in NYCity and it’s in his nature to do it again in Washington. I’m not worried about Rudy on the border the chaos down there should inflame his law and order sensibilities and I think he would clamp down. Currently he is the only one talking about are insane tax code and considering a flat tax....wonderful. He also brings up vouchers...great. He also talks about drilling in the gulf when all the other pols are worring about losing FLA...more great

That leaves guns and abortion that is judges. Rudy knows that to accomplish cleaning up our fiscal mess and waging war on our Islamic enemies not to mention holding off the dims and the MSM he will need the base including the socons firmly in his camp. I would expect him to give on those....

I think your assessment of Mr. Giuliani is far too optimistic. When all is said and done, he's done little that disagreed with the politically correct sensibilities of rich NYC liberals. Obviously, he has more support among rich NYC liberals who have registered as Republicans, but they are largely the same. He ran a tighter city government than David Dinkins did. That's hardly an accomplishment. He reduced crime in NYC by prosecuting people very strongly for small infractions of the law. Maybe that strategy was necessary in NYC, but the rest of us don't want our neighbors thrown in jail for the weekend for crossing a road against the light. Ultimately, the rich NYC liberals knew something had to be done, and while they complained a little, they weren't going to be that upset at his crime control efforts. When he had to make a choice between standing for law and order regarding illegal immigration or cooperating with laws that might make rich NYC liberals lose their illegal alien maids, he sided with those who were benefiting from violations of our immigration laws.

Plenty of candidates are talking about flat taxes. I heard Mike Huckabee talking about the flat tax today. Vouchers are nice, but he's hardly original in supporting vouchers. (Vouchers will also appeal to his rich NYC liberal friends.) He offers us nothing original or unique on these kinds of issues.

The notion that he'll clean up things on the border because of his law and order background is just wishful thinking. If he really cared that much about law and order as it applies to immigration, he would have been willing to cooperate with INS when he had the chance.

Likewise, the notion that he'll support the rest of the party on guns and abortion is still wishful thinking. If he were already in office, he wouldn't need those of us who care about these issues. Based on his history, he'll revert to doing whatever pleases rich NYC liberals. Those people want guns outlawed and abortions paid for by our tax dollars. He'll do whatever he needs to deliver these results to them.

As many have said and it bears repeating, Rudy Giuliani is wrong for the country and wrong for the party.

Bill

4,314 posted on 04/22/2007 10:35:04 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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Nice civil response FRiend ...the only one I had.... I’m one of the few Rudy guys left...tho I like Thompson. It’s too late for me to counter will get back later..have a good week...Bobby


4,327 posted on 04/22/2007 10:41:10 PM PDT by Blackirish
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