We have FReepers going to the mat with fellow FReepers. The end result may be a breath of fresh conservative air in the final analysis, but the means to the end are indeed toxic.
If Thompson or Hunter don’t win the primary, and Giuliani does, then what happens? Does FR go third party (Keyes) and in turn give the presidency to the Dems? We might as well surrender to the Jihadis now...
This whole episode here went way beyond typical, pragmatic - and friendly - debate a while ago. That train seems to have left the station. Let’s bring it back. :-)
Just my two cents.
“If Thompson or Hunter dont win the primary, and Giuliani does, then what happens? Does FR go third party (Keyes) and in turn give the presidency to the Dems?”
Then the GOP could no longer say that it was anything close to being a conservative Party. In addition they have to go Plank rippin for several years. Anybody who supports Giuliani right now in the Primary, cannot consider themselves conservatives.
You're good at asking questions. Let's see how good you are at answering them succinctly and honestly:
If there were a general election between Alan Keyes, Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?
A two-word response will suffice.
I don’t remember pragmatic and friendly. Where’d you come up with that?
That's my guess, although Keyes is not well respected here. OTOH, if Hunter, Thompson, or some other "conservative" candidate is nominated, I'm guessing that all the departed and banned freepers of the last couple days will vote for whomever that is. They are not liberals or socialists, as so many gleefully assert.
If McCain is nominated, God knows what everyone'll do.
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Giuliani | Clinton | Dem Platform | GOP Platform |
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Abortion on Demand | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Partial Birth Abortion | Supports Opposed NY ban |
Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Overturning Roe v. Wade | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Taxpayer Funded Abortions | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Embryonic Stem Cell Research | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Federal Marriage Amendment | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes Defined at state level |
Supports |
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Openly Gay Military | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Defense of Marriage Act | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens |
Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Protecting 2nd Amendment | Opposes |
Opposes | Opposes Supports bans |
Supports |
Confiscating Guns | Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged. |
Supports | Supports Supports bans |
Opposes |
'Assault' Weapons Ban | Supports | Supports | Supports | |
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers |
Supports Filed One Himself |
Supports | Opposes | |
Gun Registration/Licenses | Supports | Supports | Opposes | |
War in Afghanistan | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports | Supports |
War in Iraq | Supports | Varies Voted for it |
Supports Weak support |
Supports |
Patriot Act | Supports | Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006 |
Opposes | Supports |