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To: rbmillerjr

We have FReepers going to the mat with fellow FReepers. The end result may be a breath of fresh conservative air in the final analysis, but the means to the end are indeed toxic.

If Thompson or Hunter don’t win the primary, and Giuliani does, then what happens? Does FR go third party (Keyes) and in turn give the presidency to the Dems? We might as well surrender to the Jihadis now...

This whole episode here went way beyond typical, pragmatic - and friendly - debate a while ago. That train seems to have left the station. Let’s bring it back. :-)

Just my two cents.


13,146 posted on 04/28/2007 11:45:29 AM PDT by Skywarner (The U.S. Armed Forces... Producers of FREEDOM for over 200 years!!)
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To: Skywarner

“If Thompson or Hunter don’t win the primary, and Giuliani does, then what happens? Does FR go third party (Keyes) and in turn give the presidency to the Dems?”

Then the GOP could no longer say that it was anything close to being a conservative Party. In addition they have to go Plank rippin for several years. Anybody who supports Giuliani right now in the Primary, cannot consider themselves conservatives.


13,155 posted on 04/28/2007 11:52:29 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("You tell them I'm comin...and hell's comin with me"!)
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To: Skywarner
If Thompson or Hunter don’t win the primary, and Giuliani does, then what happens? Does FR go third party (Keyes) and in turn give the presidency to the Dems?

You're good at asking questions. Let's see how good you are at answering them succinctly and honestly:

If there were a general election between Alan Keyes, Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton, who would you vote for?

A two-word response will suffice.

13,159 posted on 04/28/2007 11:55:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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To: Skywarner
“This whole episode here went way beyond typical, pragmatic -and friendly - debate a while ago.”

I don’t remember pragmatic and friendly. Where’d you come up with that?

13,161 posted on 04/28/2007 11:56:05 AM PDT by Luke21 (No Rudy. No way.)
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To: Skywarner
"If Thompson or Hunter don’t win the primary, and Giuliani does, then what happens?"

The answer is that it is incumbent upon every Republican and every conservative to make certain that this scenario doesn't happen...

(there is no reason that it should)
13,167 posted on 04/28/2007 11:58:30 AM PDT by rockrr (Never argue with a man who buys ammo in bulk...)
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To: Skywarner
"Does FR go third party (Keyes) and in turn give the presidency to the Dems?"

That's my guess, although Keyes is not well respected here. OTOH, if Hunter, Thompson, or some other "conservative" candidate is nominated, I'm guessing that all the departed and banned freepers of the last couple days will vote for whomever that is. They are not liberals or socialists, as so many gleefully assert.

If McCain is nominated, God knows what everyone'll do.

13,168 posted on 04/28/2007 11:58:34 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Skywarner
Wouldn't matter who we would vote for. Not enough difference beween what Giuliani and Clinton stand for to even bother with worrying about which party would officially be in power.
Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion Supports
Opposed
NY ban
Supports Supports Opposes
Overturning Roe v. Wade Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at
state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes
Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Varies
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports
"Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." - Rudy Giuliani
13,179 posted on 04/28/2007 12:09:18 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Skywarner
It's an easy question, even if it is a telling one - Do you have the guts to answer it straightforwardly and honestly?
13,193 posted on 04/28/2007 12:18:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (<------(My choice for President in 2008 - Click on my screen name)
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