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Candidate Giuliani Shifts His Tone on Immigration
NY Times ^ | April 22, 2007 | MARC SANTORA and SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 04/21/2007 11:58:20 AM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: freespirited
He had to pick from a pre-selected group provided to him by others.

And those "others" are, in turn, appointed by the mayor.

101 posted on 04/22/2007 9:06:04 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
And those "others" are, in turn, appointed by the mayor.

If you want to be technical about it, half of them are appointed from a list he receives from others (e.g. the deans of the law schools.)

Apparently it is lost on you that he had to pick from eligible people in New York. That was bound to produce a group that you dont like.

You will never be able to acknowledge Rudy's accomplishments. It's that simple.

102 posted on 04/22/2007 9:18:16 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

I certainly do. I like what he did for New York.

But his positions do not qualify him as Presidential material. They just don’t.


103 posted on 04/22/2007 9:28:47 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: oceanview

“but any effective employer sanction program, must have a tamper proof social security card - so employers have some uniform way of verification.”

I respectfully disagree. There is already a program available that goes back and checks social security records and allows employers to vet employees for their status. It’s voluntary, and guess which employers don’t volunteer to use it?


104 posted on 04/22/2007 9:31:54 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Ok that settles it. I am voting for pissant.


105 posted on 04/22/2007 9:55:36 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: WalterSkinner

LOL!


106 posted on 04/22/2007 11:19:30 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: oceanview
I guarantee you, Fred Thompson will not come out in favor of en-masse deportation, round ups, mass arrests by local law enforcement of day laborers, etc.

I don't know of any candidate who has, do you? Some of the others, however, are in favor of enforcing our laws, not suing the Feds to stop them.

107 posted on 04/22/2007 11:36:31 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB

INS hardly deports anyone - numerically, in relation to the # of illegals versus the number they deport. just about every jurisdiction in the country is a “sanctuary city”, because cooperating with INS for misdemenor incidents that involve illegals, or the use of local police to identify them when they “appear” at places like hospital emergency rooms, is a waste of time.


108 posted on 04/22/2007 7:33:44 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: RKBA Democrat

and when they have fake documentation, then what?


109 posted on 04/22/2007 7:34:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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“and when they have fake documentation, then what?”

It shouldn’t matter; either you have an employment history in the database or you don’t. The system is designed to vet IDs by checking them against existing databases, primarily social security.

Of course, with fake documents it becomes something of an arms race. Once you screen out the lower quality fakes, you force the establishment of fraudulent data and better fake IDs with the data to back them up. But that costs money and the economic incentive begins to evaporate. At a certain point it becomes too expensive for the illegal alien to get the documentation they need to secure employment.

You’ll never completely get rid of people using fake documentation. But if you make it expensive enough, you can largely take care of the problem.


110 posted on 04/24/2007 5:00:15 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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