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Bill introduced to expand wilderness areas
Casper Star Tribune ^ | April 21, 2007 | NOELLE STRAUB

Posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:50 AM PDT by rwh

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"(The act) has always been ahead of its time by drawing wilderness boundaries according to science, not politics," Maloney said in a statement. "(The act) would also help mitigate the effects of global warming by protecting the corridors through which vulnerable wildlife can migrate to cooler areas."

Nuts....

1 posted on 04/21/2007 10:34:50 AM PDT by rwh
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It would be interesting if they could actually increase wilderness areas by passing a piece of ordinance. Like stopping Global Warming through Carbon Credits.


2 posted on 04/21/2007 10:36:45 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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They announced the measure along with songstress Carole King.

Congress is a joke.

3 posted on 04/21/2007 10:36:52 AM PDT by JennysCool ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -Mencken)
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Why not have a wilderness area in the Catskills...


4 posted on 04/21/2007 10:42:12 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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Eastern liberals have already locked up much of the West's land and treated Westerners like a colony of the federal government. If they want another Sagebrush Rebellion, do bring it on!!!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 04/21/2007 10:50:07 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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They need to designate Washington D.C. a wilderness area.


6 posted on 04/21/2007 10:50:46 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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I don’t understand what this “wilderness designation” really means. Can someone explain it please? I did a google search but couldn’t really find a good description of exactly what it is.


7 posted on 04/21/2007 10:54:12 AM PDT by Miztiki (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Eccles. 10:4)
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"It would be interesting if they could actually increase wilderness areas by passing a piece of ordinance."

Sure they can. I live in the Adirondack Park and the state is considering the purchase of even more lands. The Upstate economy is horrible.

"They said more than 2,300 temporary jobs would be created through the bill's program to rip out old logging roads and restore the areas to their natural state. (bold is my edit)

Other than that, humans will have to move out because no businesses will be allowed."

8 posted on 04/21/2007 10:54:41 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Miztiki

The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is a designated “Wilderness Area”.

The same rules apply. No roads or humans allowed.


9 posted on 04/21/2007 11:02:09 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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“Wilderness” means the land is officially off-limits to logging, mining, road-building and just about any other development activities. The theory is that it preserves conditions found before the evil white man turned up.

In reality, as recent research shows, to duplicate those conditions we’d have to set a great many fires every year, as that is what the Indians did.

Hiking, horseback riding, hunting, fishing, grazing, etc. are generally allowed, but with more restrictions and with no use of mechanical vehicles permitted.

One of the odder anomalies of wilderness designation is that horseback riding is allowed but mountain biking is usually not, despite the fact that by any definition horses have much greater impact on the environment than bicycles.


10 posted on 04/21/2007 11:02:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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The bill would designate as wilderness all 20 million acres of inventoried roadless lands in the states ...

"(The act) has always been ahead of its time by drawing wilderness boundaries according to science, not politics,"

Yup. Sounds like an entirely scientific process. Just designate everything.

11 posted on 04/21/2007 11:05:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: rwh; Issaquahking; SierraWasp; calcowgirl; hedgetrimmer; blackie; redrock; Jeff Head; janetgreen

These east coast liberals need to watch their own back yard and keep their noses out of ours!


12 posted on 04/21/2007 11:07:17 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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If thev Democrats want to destroy the economy of small towns like mine, let them go ahead with this measure. Salida is a human island surrounded by national forest. Liberals now want to de-populate Western states. This is the reward the West gets for putting the Democrats back in power.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

13 posted on 04/21/2007 11:08:05 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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"This is an absolutely offensive attempt by East Coast liberals to create sweeping, over-reaching laws for Western public lands without any public input from the folks living in Wyoming who would be heavily impacted by this legislation," Cubin said in a statement.





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14 posted on 04/21/2007 11:15:13 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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But yet these globalist congresscreeps say nothing about Mexican Drug cartels growing thousands of acres of dope in our national forests and parks....many of them designated ‘wilderness’ areas where US citizens are not allowed and it is absolutely destroying the habitat.

Photos and article:
http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/09/mexican-border-has-moved-800-miles.html


15 posted on 04/21/2007 11:17:26 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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...Carolyn Maloney, D-N.Y...

Maloney represents Manhattan's Upper East Side, probably the most affluent district in the US if not the entire world. You peons have to understand that limo libs from Manhattan need their pristine wilderness to visit without being bothered by the the sight of local gun-toting, domestic-beer drinking peasants.

16 posted on 04/21/2007 11:17:54 AM PDT by Aikonaa
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To: Sherman Logan; PSYCHO-FREEP

Thank you.

Are there businesses or houses or any other devolepments (other than some roads) in these proposed areas right now? If so, would they be forced to leave?


17 posted on 04/21/2007 11:21:43 AM PDT by Miztiki (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Eccles. 10:4)
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They have the bit in their teeth and they are trying to control the world.

Hang ‘em High!!


18 posted on 04/21/2007 11:22:30 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Miztiki

By definition, wilderness areas are generally roadless and therefore have very few if any houses. In some cases existing homes are “cherry-stemmed” with the home and the road to it excluded from the designation.

In other cases there are private property enclaves within the wilderness area, but road access is closed. They still own the property, but can only access it by foot or horseback.

With the exception of (generally inactive) mining claims there are seldom any businesses in wilderness areas when designated.

Guiding businesses and grazers generally continue to operate.


19 posted on 04/21/2007 11:26:06 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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Are there businesses or houses or any other devolepments (other than some roads) in these proposed areas right now? If so, would they be forced to leave?

It won't matter. Anyone who lives or has private property in these designated areas will be forced out. Got to keep those areas open for Mexican Drug Cartels and MS13 to grow their dope. Every time the politicians start this 'protected area' crappola they make it easier for the drug cartels. They are bothered less by growing dope in our parks and forests than if they are in Mexico. Local small town sheriffs don't have the resources to fight them. Homeland security says it isn't their problem.

Photos and article:

http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/2006/09/mexican-border-has-moved-800-miles.html

20 posted on 04/21/2007 11:27:34 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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