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Muslim student gives life to save others in V Tech killings
Sky News ^ | Friday 20th April 2007 | Sky News

Posted on 04/20/2007 11:58:21 PM PDT by the scotsman

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To: olderwiser
You see, muslims as an affiliated community deserve a bad rap. Just the way the Germans of Europe or the Japanese of Japan did in WWII. Because they as a community have not acted nearly as aggressively as they could to cast out radical haters within their ranks. Because far too many of them sympathize or actively aid and abet terrorists and their aims.

Their ills are institutional, not just owing to isolated individuals. Their ideological and theological tenets are a root cause of their inability to co-exist with others in peace. They require sharia and submission, jihad and dhimmitude.

So no. There is nothing wrong, and everything right with condemning Muslims, the millions of muslims who adhere to and intolerant, violent Islamist faith.

If you were Muslim, no doubt you would have a long list of wrongs justifing hatred of Americans.

121 posted on 04/21/2007 6:28:27 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Muslims lie as a matter of their so called
“religion” -— a duty to advance their cause.

Non muslims lie in violation of theirs.


122 posted on 04/21/2007 6:34:16 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: the scotsman

More Muslims should take note of this.


123 posted on 04/21/2007 6:35:43 AM PDT by wastedyears (To a liberal, "feeling safe" is far more important than "being safe" Credit to TruthShallSetYouFree)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Good out. Congrats. Your own words aren’t worth defending, even by you.

As far as freepers here, what posts here said no muslim in any instance could commit a selfless act of heroism? I missed them. Point one out.


124 posted on 04/21/2007 6:43:55 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You know, I admire heroes as much as the next guy. But I have no faith in this story what-so-ever and it sounds like BS.

You put exactly in to words my feelings when I read the story. It doesn't pass the smell test.

Sui

125 posted on 04/21/2007 6:45:28 AM PDT by suijuris
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To: lucysmom

If so, I would be deluded, as far too many of them are.

But now we come to it—America is no better than these Middle East potentates, these promulgators of Islam. Is that right? It all depends on who’s doing the looking?


126 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:20 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: razzle

First, I’m happy to hear that you are ok and that a follower of Jesus helped.

Next: ah, but Christians are (rightly) despised for their diseased world view, whereas Muslims, especially those who seek to kill Americans, are misunderstood victims of western imperialism.

(Do I really need to close my tag?)


127 posted on 04/21/2007 6:48:57 AM PDT by FourPeas (The right thing to do never requires any subterfuge, it is always simple and direct. Calvin Coolidge)
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To: eleni121
Why on earth why?

Believe it or not, there are many of us who have no wish to be in the spotlight. Or, perhaps the person has no wish to be dragged over and over again into recalling a nightmarish event.

128 posted on 04/21/2007 6:49:33 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: Mobile Vulgus

me too


129 posted on 04/21/2007 6:52:14 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Some of us do allow for such a thing as a heroic Muslim. Aren’t they the ones who send their children out in explosive vests to blow themselves to hell in the middle of a group of innocent unsuspecting people?
130 posted on 04/21/2007 6:52:51 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Cowardly terroist mass murderers fear to tread, where an armed citizenry may shoot them dead.)
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To: lucysmom

Horse hockey!


131 posted on 04/21/2007 6:59:13 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Cowardly terroist mass murderers fear to tread, where an armed citizenry may shoot them dead.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

I COMPLETELY agree with you!
I know from personal experience of a family member that the media will LIE completely to create a story!
They are desperate right now to make Muslims look good, especially with the web abuzz with the whole “Ismail Ax” story, which by the way, I first heard about here on FR within hours of the shooting but DAYS LATER by the media.
There is an article today in the Associated Press about it and they try to say this guy was a CHRISTIAN!

I seem to recall the MSM’s rush to DISPROVE the story about the female victim in the Columbine shooting who was asked if she was a CHristian and shot when she replied, “yes.”

I believe that the muslim student was probably moaning in pain and moving enough to catch Cho’s attention to shoot him again....and that was it.


132 posted on 04/21/2007 6:59:54 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: the scotsman

Yes, we know the MSM would NEVER fabricate a story or stretch the truth....EVER.


133 posted on 04/21/2007 7:00:55 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (A proud warrior of the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Enchante
There’s no plausibility to such an anonymous tale, coming out days after the stories of the Israeli professor, trying to counter-balance that with a story of “Muslim heroism”.....

My thought exactly.

134 posted on 04/21/2007 7:01:04 AM PDT by A. Pole (There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
In a perfect world, this story would have been the other way around. Heroic Korean immigrant protects a life from a demonic Muslim terrorist.
135 posted on 04/21/2007 7:02:34 AM PDT by razzle
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To: razzle
Could be. I wouldn’t know. My entire 74 plus years, have been lived in a very imperfect world.
136 posted on 04/21/2007 7:06:50 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Cowardly terrorist mass murderers fear to tread, where an armed citizenry may shoot them dead.)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I just don’t believe this story. I think the wounded kid saw the gunman and just moved in reaction. Some people play possum. I assume he just startled, moved and made the murderer saw that and finished him off. The kid who was saved just saw the movement of the other kid and since he came through alive assumed an intent on the part of the wounded kid who was killed.

I agree with you. You would have to believe the muslim kid reasoned that the killer came back to finish off the wounded, and that he was only going to shoot one person - the one who distracted him - and let any others live. But there is no reason at all to think that the killer wouldn't have shot him, then turned and shot someone else. If the act lead to an escape, I might think "intent," but there just isn't a way to make the logic work in my mind, and I am a lot calmer and more logical now than someone laying wounded on a classroom floor.

This doesn't take away from the sadness of his death, or the deaths of any of the innocents.

137 posted on 04/21/2007 7:09:04 AM PDT by TN4Liberty (Conservatives want to destroy terrorism. Liberals want to destroy conservatives.)
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Try and remember this Muslim kid was a victim. Since I wasn’t there and can’t confirm or deny the report I’ll rely on my Christian ethic and not disparage the dead innocent student. Until proven otherwise I’d hope others would do the same.
138 posted on 04/21/2007 7:21:13 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: lucysmom
The thing is, Lucysmom, we don’t hate anybody. We’re just not gullible enough to believe that any member of a sect driven by hate and sworn to our destruction, would do diddle to save one of us.

I smell useful idiots.

139 posted on 04/21/2007 7:23:26 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Cowardly terrorist mass murderers fear to tread, where an armed citizenry may shoot them dead.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; Gondring; sagar; FourPeas; Mobile Vulgus

“(2) why does the person telling the tale hide behind anonymity?”

“It might have something to do with the fact that Muslims have been getting a bad rap ever since 9/11.”

... Or could it have something to do with the fact that if anyone happens to say something in support of any Muslim for whatever reason there are plenty of so-called Americans who will attack them on that basis alone, facts be damned ?


140 posted on 04/21/2007 7:25:52 AM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling.")
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