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F-16 can graduate IAF to next generation fighter: Lockheed Martin
India Abroad News Service(IANS) ^ | April 20,2007

Posted on 04/20/2007 4:30:54 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

F-16 can graduate IAF to next generation fighter: Lockheed Martin

New Delhi, April 20 : The US F-16 combat jet is best suited to enable the Indian Air Force (IAF) to transit to fifth-generation fighters, says its manufacturer Lockheed Martin, even as it prepares to expand global opportunities for new Indian technologies.

The company is also hoping to soon ink a deal for the IAF purchase of six C-130J Super Hercules transport aircraft that will be used to ferry personnel of the Indian Army's Special Forces, as also troopers of the paramilitary forces engaged in counter-insurgency operations.

The firm has also showcased an array of helicopters, maritime reconnaissance aircraft and missile systems to the Indian armed forces.

"The latest version of the F-16 we are offering incorporates the advanced avionics, stealth and other critical systems of our F-22 and the F-35 jets (the only two-fifth generation fighters that are currently flying)," said Ralph D. Heath, the executive vice president of Lockheed Martin Corporation.

"To that extent, the F-16 is the most advanced combat jet of its kind that is flying today," Heath, who is also president of Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company, told IANS.

"We have a profound advantage over the competition as we believe the F-16 is the fastest path for the IAF to the fifth-generation fighter," he added.

India and Russia are currently engaged in the joint design of a fifth generation fighter but its production is at least a decade away. And, while Lockheed Martin is not saying so now, it is obvious it will focus on promoting the F-22 Raptor and the F-35 Lightening-II once the current IAF order for 126 multi-role combat aircraft (MRCA) is out of the way.

Lockheed Martin has been aggressively pitching the F-16 for the IAF order, terming it "the most successful combat aircraft programme in history".

Pointing to the fact that over 4,000 F-16s are currently flying worldwide, Heath noted that the company had received 51 repeat orders for the jet, "an indication of its reliability and the reputation it has established".

The IAF needs the MRCAs to replace its fast-depleting fleet of Soviet-era MiG-series jets.

The F-16 is one of seven fighters in the race for the IAF order, the others being the Boeing F/A-18 Super Hornet, the Russian MiG-35, the Swedish JAS-39 Gripen, the French Mirage 2000-5 and Rafale, and the European four-nation Typhoon.

The IAF had projected its requirement in 2001, at a time when it was operating with 39 1/2 squadrons against its sanctioned strength of 45. The IAF is now down to 30 squadrons, with analysts saying its actual requirement is actually 200 aircraft to replace its ageing fleet of MiG-21s, as also the MiG-23s and MiG-27s that are being phased out as they have outlived their service life.

In 2004, a request for information was sent out for four jets - the F-16, the Russian MiG-29M/M2, the Mirage 2000-5 and the Gripen. In addition, the manufacturers of the F-18, the Rafale and the Typhoon also sent in their proposals. Early this year, the Russians offered the MiG-35, essentially the MiG-29 with an upgraded engine.

The IAF request for proposal - the next stage in the acquisition process after which price negotiations were to be held - was to have been sent to the short-listed manufacturers in 2005 but is nowhere in sight.

In the midst of all this, a Bush administration official has also pitched in for the F-16, saying it is best suited for interoperability of the Indian and US air forces in the fight against global terrorism.

"I am not here to sell aeroplanes, but I can tell you that the F-16 is the best there is as we attempt interoperability between our air forces in the global fight against terror," Bruce S. Lemkin, US deputy undersecretary of the air force, said in New Delhi last month.

Speaking about the C-130J Super Hercules, Heath said negotiations were in an advanced stage for the IAF order.

Apart from the two aircraft, Lockheed Martin also hopes to sell to the Indian armed forces the P-3 Orion maritime patrol aircraft, the MH-60R maritime-dominance helicopter, the Patriot PAC-3 missile defence system, the ship-mounted Littoral Combat Solution (LCS) system, and the MK-41 vertical launching system (VLS) for firing missiles at sea.

Speaking about the India Innovation Growth Programme, Lockheed Martin says it is sponsoring this initiative "to demonstrate that we intend to be a corporate partner with the government and industries of India for many years to come, in many different ways".

"We will provide all the funding for the India Innovation Growth Programme and will be inviting Indian technologists, researchers, inventors and entrepreneurs to apply for participation, as we begin a structured search for promising technologies with commercial applications on a global scale," said Orville Prins, the company's vice president for India business development.

The Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industries has joined Lockheed Martin's US academic partner, the IC2 Institute at the University of Texas at Austin, in administering the programme.

--- IANS


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; boeing; f16; iaf; india; lm; lockheedmartin
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Model of an F-16 in Indian markings during an airshow

1 posted on 04/20/2007 4:30:57 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“the most successful combat aircraft programme in history”

A safe bet.


2 posted on 04/20/2007 4:43:06 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Block 10 F-16As against Block 60 F-16Fs. Add in the training differential, and it wouldn't even be close.

If I had a choice between the F/A-18F and the F-16F, I know which way I'd go.

3 posted on 04/20/2007 5:49:04 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: Yo-Yo; sukhoi-30mki

If I remember correctly, we did a war games with India last year and they shot down one of our F-22 raptors with an old gerneration F-16. Or am I mistaken in this?


4 posted on 04/20/2007 6:37:38 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Something is wrong with the vertical stabilizer on that model...


5 posted on 04/20/2007 6:47:58 AM PDT by rahbert
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To: presidio9

Nope,India has never operated F-16s & the Raptor has never exercised with India(or most foreign airforces for that matter).I think you are referring to the Cope India exercise of 2004 where Indian SU-30s scored ‘kills’ against US F-15s.Not really a big deal,given both those aircraft are very similar.


6 posted on 04/20/2007 7:13:00 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Yo-Yo
If I had a choice between the F/A-18F and the F-16F, I know which way I'd go.

No kidding, the Super Hornet is a dog.

7 posted on 04/20/2007 9:20:09 AM PDT by gura
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“The latest version of the F-16 we are offering incorporates the advanced avionics, stealth and other critical systems ...”

Isn’t “Stealth” basically airframe design?

How can they incorporate stealth into the F-16 without airframe / skin changes?

Just curious....


8 posted on 04/20/2007 9:31:44 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
"Stealth" usually means "invisible to radar" but can also mean "can't be seen on radar." The latter is accomplished with electronic countermeasures.

In addition to the tradtional jammer pods, there is talk going around about using AESA radar as a steerable jammer.

9 posted on 04/20/2007 10:04:31 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; presidio9
Are you forgetting Cope India 2006 where we did bring F-16s that flew against Su-30s? My own opinion was that it was our way of allaying the fears of India taht Pakistan getting newer F-16s wasn't a great threat. A threat, to be sure, but not a great one.

F-16Fs with AESA radar is another matter entirely.

10 posted on 04/20/2007 10:19:35 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: taxed2death
Oh, I forgot. One other "stealth" aspect of AESA radar is that it can track an opposing aircraft with a very narrow and short pulse duration radar beam that isn't easily detectable by off axis ground stations.

It's the flashlight in the dark room analogy. You shine a flashlight in a dark room to see what is in front of you, but everybody else in the room can see your beam, even if they didn't see you initially before you lit up.

11 posted on 04/20/2007 10:23:07 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Is that a block 62? nice conformal tanks. Does it come with an AESA?
12 posted on 04/21/2007 12:45:45 AM PDT by rmlew (It's WW4 and the Left wants to negotiate with Islamists who want to kill us , for their mutual ends)
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To: rmlew

Probably some derivative of the Block 50/52-it’s a model,afterall!!!You can only get a firm idea once the request for proposals are issued & negotiations start,as to how each competing plane looks like.The IAF seems to be insistent on an AESA radar coming with whichever platform it buys.The UAE’s block 60s use the Northrop Grumman APG-80.


13 posted on 04/21/2007 3:42:55 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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