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SON OF A BITCH [EXCLUSIVE: Grandad's anger at uni (VT) murderer] thread 2
Mirror Co.uk ^ | 20/04/2007 | Graham Brough

Posted on 04/20/2007 4:29:22 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

THE grandfather of Cho Seung-Hui said yesterday: "Son of a bitch. It serves him right he died with his victims."

Kim Hyang-Sik, 82, said he had a doom-laden dream of Cho's parents the night of his murderous rampage - and woke to hear the news of the massacre and his grandson's death.

He watched Cho's sick video of himself holding a gun to his head.

His sister Kim Yang-Sun, 85, who also saw it, told the Mirror that afterwards her brother was so distraught he had "gone away for a few days to calm himself down and avoid more questions".

She too repeatedly referred to the killer as "son of a bitch" or "a***hole" and said his mother Kim Hyang-Yim had problems with him from infancy.

Yang-Sun revealed the eight-year-old was diagnosed as autistic soon after his family emigrated to the US.

She said: "He was very quiet and only followed his mother and father around and when others called his name he just answered yes or no but never showed any feelings or motions.

"We started to worry that he was autistic - that was the big concern of his mother. He was even a loner as a child.

"Soon after they got to America his mother was so worried about his inability to talk she took him to hospital and he was diagnosed as autistic."

Yang-Sun spoke at her tiny one roomed shack inside a vinyl farm shelter in the Gohyang area of South Korea's capital Seoul.

The family had stayed there the night before they emigrated in 1992. Yang-Sun said Cho's mother had been reluctant to marry her older husband.

She said: "She had five brothers and sisters and she was the second eldest child. She took care of them after she graduated from high school, which meant a lot of self-sacrifice.

"Hyang-Yim was a full-time house person on one of her parents' small farms outside Seoul. She stayed at home like that for years and was still single at home when she was 29.

"We became worried that she was spending too much time at home with her brothers and sisters and family and getting to old for a husband.

"So the family decided to force her into a blind date to find a husband. She met Cho Sung-Tae on that date. He was 10 years older at 39 and still single too. They decided to get married soon after that.

"She didn't want to but her family insisted because we thought she was getting past the right age and it would be good for her.

"Her husband was very serious and quiet and careful with money. He was not very sociable and not very friendly to his mother-in-law and father-in-law.

"After they were married he went away twice to Saudi Arabia in the 80s to try to make some money in the construction boom. He came back with about £2,000, which was enough to buy a small house in Seoul. He also ran a second-hand bookstore. His mother was living in the States on a long term visit to stay with his sister. She asked him to bring his family to live there.

"His sold the house to pay for the emigration costs and rented instead but there were lots of delays and eventually the whole process to get the permissions and organise things took eight years.

"By that time the money from the house was nearly gone. They were barely making ends meet so they had nothing to lose and had this idea of the American dream where there was a lot of money to be made."

She went on: "The reaction of my brother was that Seung-Hui was a troublemaker and it served him right that he died because he caused his mother a lot of problems. He was more worried about his daughter.

"He spoke to a few reporters to express sympathy to victims' families on behalf of our family but now he has gone away. He is 82 and lives quietly on a small farm and all this is too much for him."

Other relatives admitted Cho's parents had always been aware of his problems but had neither the time nor money for specialist help.

His uncle Chan Kim, 56, said: "He wasn't like a normal kid. We were worried about him not talking.

"Both his parents knew he had mental problems but they were poor and they couldn't send him to a special hospital in the United States.

"His mother and sister were asking his friends to help instead.

"His parents worked and did not have time to look after his condition and didn't give him special treatment.

"They had no time or money to look after his special problem even though they knew he was autistic."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cho; vatech; virginiatech
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To: ladyjane

V.P.I - Virginia Polytechnic INSTITUTION


41 posted on 04/20/2007 6:44:03 AM PDT by Dixiekraut
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To: fishtank

See post 36, I tried to explain what I meant.


42 posted on 04/20/2007 6:47:15 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Scotswife

-the story reminds me of Rainman....only he was described as a savant.


43 posted on 04/20/2007 6:59:39 AM PDT by tioga
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To: SMARTY

I think your right ,”everyone gets the money”, Uh, Except Americans.

The guy never should have been let in this country, during the immigration period when Ellis Island was operating , people with sickness or defects were sent back to their country of Origin.

As a non Citizen , How was he able to buy a gun??

Took me about 6 months or so to get a Concealed Carry Permit.


44 posted on 04/20/2007 7:09:10 AM PDT by chatham
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To: chatham

In Virginia, it’s legal for a resident alien with a valid green card and secondary proof of in-state residence (like a utility bill or a check with a matching address on it) to buy a handgun. They’re considered Virginia residents, just like US citizens. (Virginia does have a one-handgun-per-month restriction, which is probably why he bought the .22 Walther on 9 February, and the 9mm Glock on 9 March.)

}:-)4


45 posted on 04/20/2007 7:14:51 AM PDT by Moose4 (Today, we are all Hokies.)
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To: tioga

rhymes with “Brainman”!!

Have you heard of this guy?

http://www.autismvox.com/brainman/


46 posted on 04/20/2007 9:29:54 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife
fascinating.

How is the fam? I'll bet they are all ready for summer vacation already.

47 posted on 04/20/2007 9:55:46 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

After this last vacation filled with rain/snow/and stomach bug, it’s going to be a long time before I want to hear the word “vacation.” :)

We’re all glad to be back to the school routine.
Just waiting for the ground to dry out for baseball.

And you?
How’s hubby and family doing?


48 posted on 04/20/2007 10:02:04 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: proud American in Canada

Just had to link my thread here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1820721/posts

(My reaction to a blog that in part insuates that mass reprisals will ensue)


49 posted on 04/20/2007 10:13:15 AM PDT by elc (Guns kill people the same way the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat.)
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To: silverleaf
No reasonable person has any business critiquing how they “paid” for their daughter to go to Princeton or what the daughter does with her life, which in an Asian cultural sense is also ruined now because no one from a “good family” will ever choose to marry her,

Spare me the ethnic victimology. I've never thought of Asians as anything but hard-working, but hard work is not confined to one culture. We owned our own family business for years, and I'm no stranger to 12-hour days, manual labor, raising kids and making ends meet. My parents were poor hard-working immigrants with a child, my brother, who had severe learning difficulties and emotional/behaviorial problems, and they begged -- no crawled -- to get him help, and they did. He never went to college, but he's now a self-sufficient, financially comfortable adult. It took a long time, and a lot of sacrifice on my parents' part.

I made no mention of ethnicity, nor did I imply it, in my original comments -- those assumed insults are solely your projections.

My comments were made in response to the quotes from the grandparents that Cho's parents "could not afford" to get him help, and the contrast between that and what we know of their lifestyle. I would certainly consider it far more important, and responsible, to get a disturbed youngster professional help than to send him to college, and if the grandparents' comments are true, he did not get that help.

50 posted on 04/20/2007 10:54:46 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: Scotswife
-we just came back from lunch with the “granddaughter” (really his first cousin’s granddaughter, age 20 months old, but we are the only family in town).....she is giving hubby a run for his money right now....she chatters a blue streak, but very few words are recognizable....she was an angel and everyone just smiled at her. You tend to forget what fun it can be to take a little one out....I suppose that kind of adventure is no big deal to you. ;^)
51 posted on 04/20/2007 11:40:04 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

LOL!!

I don’t get out much!
I love that stage tho where they are chattering gibberish.

You get to where you can actually understand them!

It’s a beautiful day (finally!) to take a little one out.


52 posted on 04/20/2007 12:18:35 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Hatteras

VT is not expensive if you’re an in-state student.


53 posted on 04/20/2007 12:22:46 PM PDT by twigs
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To: SampleMan; Jedi Master Pikachu

I think Sample Man is right. Individuals are to honor their families. And their countries. People who do not do that are a disgrace and, apparantly, are disowned. We are such a highly individualistic culture with ideas about individual rights and freedoms that’s it’s hard to see or understand. But these folks are not individuals apart from their family. Certainly not immigrants.


54 posted on 04/20/2007 12:25:42 PM PDT by twigs
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To: browardchad

I don’t know that it’s victimology. I think it’s part of their worldview. I’m not as sure of Koreans, but for Chinese, their material status is more important than anything. We have Chinese friends who are keeping their son (1 year old) in China so they can stay here and work. They are not poor, but neither are they rich. Their son is already exhibiting poblems, but they will not bring him here before they earn what they consider enough money. These are good people and the husband is a college professor. But it is their worldview.


55 posted on 04/20/2007 12:29:34 PM PDT by twigs
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To: Scotswife

I remember when the kids were little and a trip to the grocery store without kiddies was a welcome respite. LOL....enjoy them while they can — one day they will grow up and move far away to San Jose......LOL


56 posted on 04/20/2007 12:48:58 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

There’s days the noise, mess and chaos literally drives me insane and I’m a snarling snapping maniac.

That’s when Scot reminds me that someday the house will be real quiet and I’ll miss the chaos.


57 posted on 04/20/2007 12:51:24 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

You WILL miss it one day. Our youngest, a daughter headed to San Jose a few years back. I miss her a lot. I usually IM her....I sent her the link to baldwin’s voice mail message to his daughter.....then she called to ask what the heck that was. LOL....she said she KNEW her own Dad would never talk like that....she was as shocked as any true FReeper was.


58 posted on 04/20/2007 12:58:40 PM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

I wasn’t all that shocked about Baldwin...he’s been caught before having raging hissy fits.
I guess when he was on broadway there were actors afraid to work with him.

I still can’t help but laugh when he’s on SNL or 30 Rock.


59 posted on 04/20/2007 1:05:19 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: dawn53

“I wondered about autism when it was revealed that the kid had never really “talked” to anyone at anytime in his life.”

Autism I doubt. Crazy, most likely! He sure talked up a storm on tape for all to hear!


60 posted on 04/20/2007 1:07:28 PM PDT by seekthetruth
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