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Signs of Intelligence?(Fred on gun control)
4/20/2007 | Fred Dalton Thompson

Posted on 04/20/2007 4:04:44 AM PDT by Neville72

Signs of Intelligence?

One of the things that's got to be going through a lot of peoples' minds now is how one man with two handguns, that he had to reload time and time again, could go from classroom to classroom on the Virginia Tech campus without being stopped. Much of the answer can be found in policies put in place by the university itself.

Virginia, like 39 other states, allows citizens with training and legal permits to carry concealed weapons. That means that Virginians regularly sit in movie theaters and eat in restaurants among armed citizens. They walk, joke and rub shoulders everyday with people who responsibly carry firearms -- and are far safer than they would be in San Francisco, Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, New York City, or Washington, D.C., where such permits are difficult or impossible to obtain.

The statistics are clear. Communities that recognize and grant Second Amendment rights to responsible adults have a significantly lower incidence of violent crime than those that do not. More to the point, incarcerated criminals tell criminologists that they consider local gun laws when they decide what sort of crime they will commit, and where they will do so.

Still, there are a lot of people who are just offended by the notion that people can carry guns around. They view everybody, or at least many of us, as potential murderers prevented only by the lack of a convenient weapon. Virginia Tech administrators overrode Virginia state law and threatened to expel or fire anybody who brings a weapon onto campus.

In recent years, however, armed Americans -- not on-duty police officers -- have successfully prevented a number of attempted mass murders. Evidence from Israel, where many teachers have weapons and have stopped serious terror attacks, has been documented. Supporting, though contrary, evidence from Great Britain, where strict gun controls have led to violent crime rates far higher than ours, is also common knowledge.

So Virginians asked their legislators to change the university's "concealed carry" policy to exempt people 21 years of age or older who have passed background checks and taken training classes. The university, however, lobbied against that bill, and a top administrator subsequently praised the legislature for blocking the measure.

The logic behind this attitude baffles me, but I suspect it has to do with a basic difference in worldviews. Some people think that power should exist only at the top, and everybody else should rely on "the authorities" for protection.

Despite such attitudes, average Americans have always made up the front line against crime. Through programs like Neighborhood Watch and Amber Alert, we are stopping and catching criminals daily. Normal people tackled "shoe bomber" Richard Reid as he was trying to blow up an airliner. It was a truck driver who found the D.C. snipers. Statistics from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that civilians use firearms to prevent at least a half million crimes annually.

When people capable of performing acts of heroism are discouraged or denied the opportunity, our society is all the poorer. And from the selfless examples of the passengers on Flight 93 on 9/11 to Virginia Tech professor Liviu Librescu, a Holocaust survivor who sacrificed himself to save his students earlier this week, we know what extraordinary acts of heroism ordinary citizens are capable of.

Many other universities have been swayed by an anti-gun, anti-self defense ideology. I respect their right to hold those views, but I challenge their decision to deny Americans the right to protect themselves on their campuses -- and then proudly advertise that fact to any and all.

Whenever I've seen one of those "Gun-free Zone" signs, especially outside of a school filled with our youngest and most vulnerable citizens, I've always wondered exactly who these signs are directed at. Obviously, they don't mean much to the sort of man who murdered 32 people just a few days ago.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; fred; fredstateamerica; fredthompson; runfredrun; thompson; uncommonsense
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1 posted on 04/20/2007 4:04:45 AM PDT by Neville72
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To: Neville72

Wow! One POTUS candidate that gets it. Run Fred, please run. And he’s exactly right, gun free zones=free kill zones.


2 posted on 04/20/2007 4:10:36 AM PDT by LoneStarLegend78
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To: Neville72
Yes, the author is on solid ground here.

I went to look at the link, but I didn't see it?

3 posted on 04/20/2007 4:13:25 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: Neville72

Yesterday there was some news coverage of the 2002 incident at a Virginia law school in which a shooter was stopped by three or four students, at least two of whom had retrieved handguns from their vehicles in the parking lot.

The perp surrendured to them once he realized they were armed, but unfortunately he’d already killed two or three people.


4 posted on 04/20/2007 4:16:29 AM PDT by angkor
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To: snowsislander
Here is the link to Thompson's Radio address text...

http://www.abcradio.com/blog.asp?id=15663

5 posted on 04/20/2007 4:17:23 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Neville72

And before anybody starts with “Giving guns to 18 year old beer-swilling frat boys?!?!”, keep in mind that most places you need to be 21 to get a CCW. This means we’re excluding most undergrads (beer swilling or not), and mainly talking about allowing FACULTY and grad students to carry.


6 posted on 04/20/2007 4:19:03 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: Neville72

BINGO!!!!!

let see fRutty attempt that one.

Fred just has it right in sooo many ways.....


7 posted on 04/20/2007 4:20:09 AM PDT by Vaquero (" an armed society is a polite society" Heinlein "MOLON LABE!" Leonidas of Sparta)
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To: Neville72; jellybean

“That means that Virginians regularly sit in movie theaters and eat in restaurants among armed citizens. They walk, joke and rub shoulders everyday with people who responsibly carry firearms — and are far safer than they would be in San Francisco, Oakland, Detroit, Chicago, NEW YORK CITY, or Washington, D.C., where such permits are difficult or impossible to obtain.” - Fred Thompson

TAKE THAT RUDY!


8 posted on 04/20/2007 4:35:52 AM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Neville72

I’ve been waiting for a solid explanation as to why I should care about Fred Thompson’s presidential candidacy. It appears that I have just received one.


9 posted on 04/20/2007 4:48:20 AM PDT by Brouhaha
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To: Neville72
Communities that recognize and grant Second Amendment rights to responsible adults have a significantly lower incidence of violent crime than those that do not.

Yep, they are much lower. But I wish Fred would user the correct terminology. No one, no community, no government "grants" Second Amendment Rights. They issue a permit to carry a hidden firearm in public.

10 posted on 04/20/2007 4:51:23 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: Neville72

Bump for uncommon sense.


11 posted on 04/20/2007 4:51:53 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: RatsDawg

Where are the Rootybots? You know the ones that have been insisting that Fred is a closet RINO......like their man.

This commentary should end that notion for good.

Cheers for the 2nd amendment! Cheers for Fred Dalton Thompson!

RUN, FRED, RUN!!!!


12 posted on 04/20/2007 4:53:15 AM PDT by Neville72 (uist)
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To: Neville72

Good column. BTTT.


13 posted on 04/20/2007 4:57:32 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: angkor
When the dude went nuts in Austin, TX, and started shooting people from the bell tower at the U of T (with a Springfield bolt-action rifle, IIRC) the first response was from a couple of students who got their .22's out of their pickups and kept him pinned down until the cops got there.

That was back in the early 60's, mind you, when Austin and UT were still populated by real Texans.

14 posted on 04/20/2007 4:57:59 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: SauronOfMordor

Another argument: if we trust them to vote, what’s wrong with trusting them with firearms?


15 posted on 04/20/2007 5:00:13 AM PDT by rudy45
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To: Brouhaha

> That means that Virginians regularly sit in movie theaters and eat in restaurants among armed citizens. <

True enough.

But one should be aware that Virginia law prohibits concealed carry — even for permit holders — in restaurants and other establishments that have liquor licenses.

On the other hand, OPEN carry is perfectly legal in the same establishments!

So if a Virginia lady wants to bring a firearm into a restaurant that serves liquor, it’s OK unless the business owner says no.

BUT:

The restaurant patron will need to carry her firearm in plain sight. No concealment allowed!


16 posted on 04/20/2007 5:03:11 AM PDT by Hawthorn (duncanforprez + fredforveep = Hunter Thompson!)
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To: Brouhaha
I’ve been waiting for a solid explanation as to why I should care about Fred Thompson’s presidential candidacy. It appears that I have just received one.

There's another one, one that could be totally compelling: he's the only leading contender in either party to speak out, clearly and publicly, against the global warming scam. Indeed, my only doubt about him is that he supported the McCain-Finegold atrocity, an act he may be regretting.

17 posted on 04/20/2007 5:07:04 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: jellybean

FRed ping!

(And I think you can add me to the ping list now...)


18 posted on 04/20/2007 5:08:41 AM PDT by kevkrom (Al Gore is to Global Warming as L. Ron Hubbard is to Scientology)
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To: Neville72

Fred continues to impress


19 posted on 04/20/2007 5:11:27 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: SauronOfMordor

We give 18 year olds full autos in the military, and grenade launchers, SAMS, and artilery.


20 posted on 04/20/2007 5:16:20 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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