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Ron Paul: A Conservative Study in Contrasts
The Politico ^
| April 18, 2007
| Josh Kraushaar
Posted on 04/19/2007 7:22:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe
Excerpt: The candidate is one of the most outspoken defenders of gun rights in Congress and has never voted for a bill restricting gun ownership. He thinks this week's tragedy at Virginia Tech could have been prevented if the university allowed students and professors to carry concealed weapons. "People are a little more cautious if somebody might have a gun there. A concealed gun carried by a responsible person, that might have ended the problem that they had at Virginia Tech, with one person being killed, or two people being killed," he said. Another signature Paul proposal is support for the elimination of income taxes. His campaign slogan in congressional elections has been "The Taxpayer's Best Friend." "I don't think we need an income tax," Paul said. "I promised my people I would do anything and everything I can to get rid of the income tax, to repeal the 16th Amendment, never vote to raise taxes and always vote to lower taxes. And it's been a popular position."
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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; loser; nut; paul; ronpaul
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To: BlackElk
"..like isolationists."Where did you hear that term, from the talking heads in the MSM?
I think you did. At least that is where I heard it.
Somehow, that word is being applied to anyone who thinks giving our money away to other countries, and refusing to act as the world's policeman is a bad idea.
To: Designer II
Somehow, that word is being applied to anyone who thinks giving our money away to other countries, and refusing to act as the world's policeman is a bad idea. If that's the case, I'll proudly appropriate that word for myself.
I'm an isolationist.
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posted on
04/20/2007 7:05:03 AM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Future Former Freeper)
To: Wormwood
Perhaps a more neutral term would be “political isolationist.” As an advocate of free trade, I’d happily embrace that term.
To: Wormwood
I think I know what you mean. Trade is one thing, intervention is quite another.
Especially intervening in the affairs of another country without a compelling national interest. (Ours, not theirs.)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
But, you know -- if you do Vote for him... and if enough other folks Vote for him... then the Money System doesn't really matter, eh? Have him win a statewide election, then maybe we'll talk. If he can't get elected Governor or Senator, why does anyone think he's capable of getting elected President?
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posted on
04/20/2007 9:11:45 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(A vote for Guiliani is a vote to kill conservatism.)
To: kevkrom
Have him win a statewide election, then maybe we'll talk. If he can't get elected Governor or Senator, why does anyone think he's capable of getting elected President?Because the Electoral College is not restricted to voting for Senators and Governors.
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posted on
04/20/2007 9:23:08 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Because the Electoral College is not restricted to voting for Senators and Governors. I said "capable", not "legally able to". By your standard, I have a chance of winning the election, and I can guarantee you that's not going to happen.
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posted on
04/20/2007 9:34:11 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(A vote for Guiliani is a vote to kill conservatism.)
To: kevkrom
I said "capable", not "legally able to". By your standard, I have a chance of winning the election, and I can guarantee you that's not going to happen.True. Unfortunately, the Best GOP candidates running (Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter in that order) are all United States Congressmen, not Senators or Governors. Whereas the "biggest" GOP Candidate at this time is.... a Liberal ex-Mayor.
As far as "Senators and Governors" (or ex-Governors), you've got McCain and Romney -- neither of which is dependably Conservative; and a gaggle of ex-governors from various states who are polling no better than (and sometimes lower than) Congressman Ron Paul.
Given those choices, I'm supporting the Congressmen -- Ron Paul most of all.
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posted on
04/20/2007 9:51:27 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Throw Fred Thompson into that mix and you have a solidly conservative former Senator who can effectively communicate his message, and just by announcing will immediately become one of the front-runners.
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posted on
04/20/2007 9:55:25 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(A vote for Guiliani is a vote to kill conservatism.)
To: kevkrom
Throw Fred Thompson into that mix and you have a solidly conservative former Senator who can effectively communicate his message, and just by announcing will immediately become one of the front-runners.Fred Thompson isn't running for the GOP Nomination.
That's not a prediction; just a plain statement of Current Fact.
I'm supporting a Candidate who is running for the GOP Nomination, not one who isn't.
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posted on
04/20/2007 9:57:47 AM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
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posted on
04/20/2007 11:32:07 AM PDT
by
traviskicks
(http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
True. Unfortunately, the Best GOP candidates running (Paul, Tancredo, and Hunter in that order) are all United States Congressmen, not Senators or Governors. Whereas the "biggest" GOP Candidate at this time is.... a Liberal ex-Mayor.
Sadly, Ron Paul does not the the attention he deserves. He is one of the only elected representatives on the federal level that actually speaks about saving our country, culture, and constitution. The rest of the suits are just money/power hungry bureaucrats.
It saddens me to say.. but Rudy will probably get the GOP nomination and will probably win the next election. We can bet our bottom dollars that we will see more taxes, more gun laws, more bureaucracy created, and more feel good social programs programs created. We can also bet on the ATF funding to be expanded big time. Rudy is a true-blue big city northeast liberal to the highest degree. He is NOT to be trusted.
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posted on
04/20/2007 12:52:28 PM PDT
by
BigTom85
(Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
To: BigTom85
It saddens me to say.. but Rudy will probably get the GOP nomination and will probably win the next election. We can bet our bottom dollars that we will see more taxes, more gun laws, more bureaucracy created, and more feel good social programs programs created.Oh, if I were a betting man, I'd say that's probably the likely scenario. Giuliani is a seasoned enough politician to chew up a movice like Obama, and Hillary's negatives are so high that she's going to have to fight for every 1% Undecided over and above the 35-40% Democrat Base.
However, as you correctly observe: any Giuliani/Democrat matchup is just a race between two Liberals (quite literally -- Rudy sought and received the endorsement of the Liberal Party of New York). Ergo, as long as we have the opportunity in the Primaries, I'll be working to nominate Anybody But Rudy -- most preferably Ron Paul.
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posted on
04/20/2007 1:11:46 PM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
#18
Thanks for shedding some "common sense" on the issue.
Speaking of "common sense", where's Tom Payne when you need him!
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posted on
04/20/2007 1:35:46 PM PDT
by
Verax
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
You’re forgetting the war. Everybody seems to be. Rudy is as much a backer of the failing surge as McCain. If it continues to go south, amd Rudy refuses to back down, the Democrat will benefit. This applies to any pro-surge candidate.
To: Austin Willard Wright
Youre forgetting the war. Everybody seems to be. Rudy is as much a backer of the failing surge as McCain. If it continues to go south, amd Rudy refuses to back down, the Democrat will benefit. This applies to any pro-surge candidate.That's a good point.
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posted on
04/20/2007 1:52:35 PM PDT
by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
To: cva66snipe
I wish the other GOP candidates would think more like Ron Paul and less like the DEMs.
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You mean you want the other Republicans to advocate the cut and run cowardly policy of Ron Paul? I sure do not. Why is he and his democrat allies so insistent that the terrorists win in Iraq?
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posted on
04/20/2007 2:00:14 PM PDT
by
John D
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Austin Willard Wright; cva66snipe; traviskicks; Verax
To: John D
You mean you want the other Republicans to advocate the cut and run cowardly policy of Ron Paul? I sure do not. Conservatives sensibly advocated "cut and run" on LBJ's starry-eyed War on Poverty back in the 1960s. They knew that victory in such an enterprise was hopelessly utopian, produced unintended consquences, and was a waste of scare resources. Now, using the same logic, Paul calls for disengagement from Bush's utopian crusade to "spread democracy" in Iraq. In both cases, the "cut and run" (to use your words) approach rested on the pragmatic principle of recognizing cold, hard reality.
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