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Gun bans? Take a look at how drug laws work
The Washington Times ^ | April 19, 2007 | Tom Knott

Posted on 04/19/2007 11:41:25 AM PDT by neverdem

The urge of lawmakers amid the unthinkable is to entertain the feel-good notion of legislation that could have prevented the awfulness.


    The inclination to legislate the worst impulses out of the human condition is understandable in the wake of the horror at Virginia Tech that left 32 dead at the hand of a gun-toting sicko, who then shot himself. But as we know only too well, if only from anecdotal experience, laws have their limits.


    To take the principle of gun-control measures to the ultimate level, let's say America decided in the coming weeks that it no longer could tolerate the heinous acts of a lone gunman, whether in Blacksburg, Va., or in an Amish schoolhouse in Paradise, Pa.


    Let's say we the people, in tandem with our lawmakers, said no to guns, period. Let's say we even said no to guns employed by sportsmen to kill game.


    What would be the outcome? Would America suddenly become a gun-free safe zone?


    That certainly would be the intent of the draconian measure. Unfortunately for us, just as one learns one thing in the classroom and discovers something entirely different in the real world, it sometimes works the same with the policies of lawmakers and wonks. Call it the unintended consequences of the well-meaning.


    We humans are an ingenious lot. Show us a demand for a particular good, legal or otherwise, and rest assured some of us will endeavor to fill that demand.


    Our so-called war on illegal drugs has not exactly been a whopping success. You can go to all parts of our city and find whatever you need to help you get through the day. It is not very difficult. In fact, police sometimes have a...

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Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]

The war on guns: Joel Miller explains how drug cops are killing 2nd Amendment

1 posted on 04/19/2007 11:41:27 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Liberals want to remake human nature. That is an exercise doomed to futility. People will act as they think in their best interests regardless of what the law might command.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 04/19/2007 11:47:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I disagree.

Liberals believe they are much smarter than most humans, and therefore should be in charge of every aspect of their lives, 24/7/365.


3 posted on 04/19/2007 11:51:24 AM PDT by Badeye (Sally's not well? No kidding....)
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To: neverdem

I like Tom Knott’s articles. Somehow I missed this while perusing the Times. Thanks for posting! This was a good one!


4 posted on 04/19/2007 11:54:00 AM PDT by JZelle
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To: neverdem

I know some otherwise rational and thoughtful people that in the face of crimes like this begin to consider that we do need gun control. Even Dennis Miller yesterday slipped back into his more liberal old self thinking out loud that maybe we should consider such things.

They’re well-meaning, but they’re mistaking a law against guns for actually *uninventing* guns. But of course we don’t get to uninvent guns. Gun prohibition would be precisely as ineffective as drug phohibition.

In fact... it would be worse. A new gun black market would be serviced by who else? The drug cartels. And hey... if running guns is illegal anyway, why bother with revolvers and semi-automatics?

The gun cartels would be stocking up on the international gun markets, and they’d be supplying the gangs in the cities with lots better stuff than some semi-auto SKS. May as well be the fully-auto variety, and heck, while your at it... toss in some grenades and an RPG.

Just a thought.


5 posted on 04/19/2007 12:00:08 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: neverdem
Show us a demand for a particular good, legal or otherwise, and rest assured some of us will endeavor to fill that demand.

Yeah, but what if everybody wanted an atom bomb, should we legalize that??

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6 posted on 04/19/2007 12:02:42 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: neverdem
But something tells us that he would have found a way to do what he did, no matter the good intentions of those on Capitol Hill.

Of course he would have. He could have simply built a full auto weapon from off the shelf parts at the local hardware store or, even worse, built a bomb.

Banning guns will lead to more guns and more gun violence exactly the same as banning drugs has led to more drugs and more drug violence.
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7 posted on 04/19/2007 12:05:36 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Badeye

I’ve been attending night school to finish up my degree.
My whacked out Communications ( used to be English) professor made a comment the other day which sums up all liberals, it was “ If only I was queen, all the problems would be solved”, My immediate thought was, all but that little revolution problem when people say how crazy you are. But she see’s no problem with imposing her solutions on others, and she firmly believes that the population of the planet needs to be reduced. What elitist crap you’re allowed to spew when it’s a required course.


8 posted on 04/19/2007 12:15:07 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: Waverunner

“I’ve been attending night school to finish up my degree.
My whacked out Communications ( used to be English) professor made a comment the other day which sums up all liberals, it was “ If only I was queen, all the problems would be solved”, My immediate thought was, all but that little revolution problem when people say how crazy you are. But she see’s no problem with imposing her solutions on others, and she firmly believes that the population of the planet needs to be reduced. What elitist crap you’re allowed to spew when it’s a required course.”

I have zero faith in academia’s mutterings, from long personal experience.

If you have to find a job that provides ‘tenure’ you obviously suffer from a lack of confidence in your own abilities.


9 posted on 04/19/2007 12:17:35 PM PDT by Badeye (Sally's not well? No kidding....)
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To: Waverunner

RE: Her Contention the World Population is Too High

Perhaps you should invite her to demonstrate her committment to reducing population by offing herself first? If she’s not prepared to do that, then one must question her depth of belief. /sarc

I wonder if she has any kids? It strikes me as odd that many of these “the world’s too populated” libs go on to have children, blithely ignorant of their hypocrisy.


10 posted on 04/19/2007 12:23:36 PM PDT by delphirogatio
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To: mugs99
"exactly the same as banning drugs has led to more drugs and more drug violence."

So legalizing drugs would lead to less drugs? Even you can't believe that.

11 posted on 04/19/2007 12:39:41 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: robertpaulsen
So legalizing drugs would lead to less drugs? Even you can't believe that.

It doesn't make sense, on the face of it, but may still be true. I understand that per-capita alcohol consumption actually increased during Prohibition.

One problem that people with a dictatorial mindset have, is believing that the things they mandate will have effects other than what they intend. For example, many people still have trouble believing that increasing tax rates can reduce tax revenue.

12 posted on 04/19/2007 1:12:13 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: 3niner
"I understand that per-capita alcohol consumption actually increased during Prohibition."

Alcohol consumption was higher before and after the start of Prohibition. Drug use declined over 60% from its high point in 1979 and has remained relatively flat for the last 15 years.

13 posted on 04/19/2007 1:23:55 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: delphirogatio

Her son is a physics major - who told her how great al gore’s movie is - He must be a theoretical physicist studying alternate universes.


14 posted on 04/19/2007 1:50:49 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: robertpaulsen
So legalizing drugs would lead to less drugs? Even you can't believe that.
Yes, I do believe that.
It was difficult for kids to find drugs before the drug war began. Now any kid can find any drug he wants anywhere in America.
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15 posted on 04/19/2007 1:58:46 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: 3niner
I understand that per-capita alcohol consumption actually increased during Prohibition

Teen deaths from alcohol overdose became epidemic during prohibition. That's why Pauline Sabin led the "Mothers Of America" march on Washington to repeal alcohol prohibition...they did it "for the children".
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16 posted on 04/19/2007 2:03:02 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: robertpaulsen
Alcohol consumption was higher before and after the start of Prohibition.

This statement is self contradictory.

Drug use declined over 60% from its high point in 1979...

However, most "recreational drugs" were outlawed several decades before 1979, and the "use" of many increased significantly after they were outlawed. I am not saying that outlawing them caused the increase, but it certainly didn't prevent it.

17 posted on 04/19/2007 2:08:03 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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18 posted on 04/19/2007 2:09:41 PM PDT by PsyOp (Any dangerous spot is tenable if brave men will make it so. - John F. Kennedy.)
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To: Waverunner
how great al gore’s movie is
LOL!
I watched Al's "An Inconvient Truth" this morning. He lost me when he showed pictures of Lake Chad and claimed Global Warming was causing the lake to dry up. The geologic record clearly shows that Lake Chad dries up every 2000 years and the last dry cycle was 2000 years ago.
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19 posted on 04/19/2007 2:10:30 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Ken H
Yeah, but what if everybody wanted an atom bomb, should we legalize that??

Our inaction with North Korea and Iran would indicate that this is, indeed, already happening.

20 posted on 04/19/2007 2:35:29 PM PDT by PeterFinn (The end of islam is the beginning of peace.)
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