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'We're Sorry You Saw The Video'
Sky News ^ | April 19, 2007 | sky news

Posted on 04/19/2007 7:38:26 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn

Police believe the Virginia gunman may have been copying scenes from a film when he carried out his killing spree.

Scene from Oldboy and Seung-HuiDetectives say Cho Seung-Hui repeatedly watched the South Korean movie Oldboy in the days leading up to the massacre in which 32 people were killed.

The film's themes of obsession and revenge also occur in Cho's own writings.

In a chilling video sent by the student to the American TV network NBC he appears to re-enact scenes from the movie in a series of photographs.

In one he holds a gun to his own head and in another wields a hammer, images that appear in the film.

The video also confirms that Cho had been planning the killings for some time.

Advertisement It is believed to have been posted after the first shooting in a university dormitory, in which two students were killed, but before Cho shot dead another 30 people in a classroom across campus and then committed suicide.

Police said the package that contained photographs, video and writings could be a "very new critical component" of the investigation into the mass killings.

The video contains a rambling and at times incoherent account of his grievances and his reasons for the shootings.

The package Cho sent to NBCVirginia Police superintendent Col Steve Flaherty said: "We're in the process of attempting to analyse and evaluate its worth."

The package, addressed to NBC News head Steve Capus, bears a postal stamp in the two-hour window between the first shooting and the second, in which Cho killed himself.

It was passed to the FBI after it arrived yesterday.

In the video Cho talks to the camera and at one point makes a reference to the massacre, saying "this didn't have to happen".

In one clip, Cho says: "You had a hundred billion chances and ways to have avoided today.

Some of the victims"But you decided to spill my blood. You forced me into a corner and gave me only one option. The decision was yours. Now you have blood on your hands that will never wash off."

One of the 29 pictures in the package showed Cho staring at the camera with his arms outstretched, brandishing two handguns and wearing what appeared to be a military-style jacket for holding ammunition.

The latest revelations come after it emerged Cho was held in a mental health unit after two women students complained about his behaviour in 2005.

University police chief Wendell Flinchum said officers spoke to Cho in November and December 2005 following complaints of low-level harassment.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: choseunghui; vatech; virginiatech; vt
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To: beeber
“What a fool tool.”
41 posted on 04/19/2007 8:22:46 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: highlander_UW
From Wikipedia on the Oldboy movie:

"The film won the Grand Prix at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and high praise from the President of the Jury, director Quentin Tarantino, who couldn't persuade the members of the jury to give it the Palme d'Or over Fahrenheit 9/11."

Hey what a surprise! Quentin Tarantino absolutely LOVED the movie!

Any bets that as we speak Tarantino is trying get Cho's parents to sign a license for rights to his plays?

42 posted on 04/19/2007 8:25:40 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: hoyaloya
Surely NBC wouldn’t only release segments selectively for agenda purposes would they?

Sarcasm noted. Our low opinion of their motivations not withstanding, they are much more interested in reporting murders, not causing them. I think they are worried about being the provider of source material for other homicidal sociopaths to use in "justifying" their own rampage(s). Heavy network lawyer input is probably stifling their natural instincts to "report" (i.e., thoughtlessly blab everything they know as soon as possible).
43 posted on 04/19/2007 8:25:59 AM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: Brian Mosely; stylecouncilor

I read a review of Battle Royale and thought that I would like to see that movie. Thanks for the info.


44 posted on 04/19/2007 8:28:35 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Captain Rhino
thoughtlessly blab everything they know as soon as possible

LOL and true too.

45 posted on 04/19/2007 8:29:23 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
"The film won the Grand Prix at the 2004 Cannes Film Festival and high praise from the President of the Jury, director Quentin Tarantino, who couldn't persuade the members of the jury to give it the Palme d'Or over Fahrenheit 9/11."

What a glorious year for movies at Cannes it appears...Oldboy and Fahrenheit 9/11. /s

46 posted on 04/19/2007 8:29:38 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Ouderkirk

Sow the wind and reap the whirlwind.

Liberals create these monsters and then ask: “Duh....why?”


47 posted on 04/19/2007 8:30:46 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Arming all won't create more kooks. It just gives victims a chance of surviving kook assaults.)
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To: BombHollywood
I did notice that Cho was epousing Marxist class warfare agit-prop

I wonder what Cho's DU name was?-

48 posted on 04/19/2007 8:35:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

What about violent video games?


49 posted on 04/19/2007 8:35:37 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: twntaipan

As I posted to 2banana on anothier post:

“BUT WHY DID THE NEWS BLEEP IT OUT? ALSO, NOW THE NEWS ALSO MAKE FUZZY HIS MOUTH...SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT - WHY ARE THEY WITHHOLDING THIS INFO?????”

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Actually he said he did this “for my children and for my brothers and sisters that you f***.” That’s what was bleeped and fuzzied.

It’s on youtube. Yes it’s still bleeped and fuzzy, but you can make it out by analyzing the context.”


50 posted on 04/19/2007 8:37:53 AM PDT by hotshu
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I heard a guy the other night late on radio, some sort of brain researcher. He made the point that many people who become “unhinged” have some sort of Left Brain damage, that Right Brain damage doesn’t cause this sort of reaction.

But sometimes lack of oxygen, or some sort of incident/factor that changes brain chemistry on the Left Side sort of makes something “switch off” in the brain. Essentially the change in the brain takes an already “depressed” person and puts them in a sort of floating, false reality.

In that case, guns, movies, video games, songs are just random influences tools to that false reality. Its not the fault of the item or work, its the reaction of the brain.

As time goes by, I wonder if we’ll enter a time where people diagnosed to be a candidate to become unhinged will be “tagged” in some way.

I don’t think gun control or pop culture are really where the reduction of rights will occur, but perhaps in “labeling” of people. Sort of a Preemptive Psychiatry.

I think Scientologists are loony toons, but their views on Psychiatry aren’t really completely insane in some ways.

I dunno, as the layers are peeled from this onion, and if there is a copycat, its going to get intriguing.


51 posted on 04/19/2007 8:38:03 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: windcliff

It’s a pretty hard movie to watch and one that only the Japanese could come up with.

It was either the author or the director that said the theme of the movie was for children not to trust adults. Apparently, he and his high school classmates were forced to work in munition factories during WWII and along we come with our B-29’s. He didn’t blame us, though. He blamed the adults for forcing him and his classmates to work there and putting them in danger. They were all killed except him.

Having the whole bloodbath hosted by Vic Romano of MXC (Takeshi Kitano) about had me hitting the floor, though


52 posted on 04/19/2007 8:43:23 AM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: Brian Mosely
Yep. And they are far more violent than anything allowed over here. I'll bet that Battle Royale from Japan was a big favorite of Cho's, too. You can't get THAT movie here unless you get from Hong Kong. Amazon has bootlegs of it for sale as well.

That's incorrect. I rented Battle Royale (and it's sequel) maybe a year ago at a local video store. Battle Royale was ok, not as good as the book (which I've also read) but the sequel was really bad. Caddyshack 2 bad.

53 posted on 04/19/2007 8:44:39 AM PDT by cryptical (Bruce Schneier can smell weak keys.)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

And Hollywood thinks they are a force for good.


54 posted on 04/19/2007 8:48:15 AM PDT by bmwcyle ( Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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To: Brian Mosely

yep.. that brings to mind the sam kinison bit about charles manson..


55 posted on 04/19/2007 8:48:59 AM PDT by wafflehouse (When in danger, When in doubt, Run in circles, Scream and Shout!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The package, addressed to NBC News head Steve Capus, bears a postal stamp in the two-hour window between the first shooting and the second, in which Cho killed himself.

Everyone is assuming that he wrote all this and mailed it in that two hour time frame, but as you noted, he could have dropped it off well before the shootings, and it only got logged into the system in that two hour span. Otherwise, someone might possibly have seen him moving around, going to the FedEx drop off point, and I haven't seen that mentioned anywhere.

56 posted on 04/19/2007 8:50:38 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Captain Rhino
(i.e., thoughtlessly blab everything they know as soon as possible).

More like what they THINK they know!

57 posted on 04/19/2007 8:56:14 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: cryptical

Really? You must have a pretty hip video store. I live in a fairly socially retarded area, so I have to rely on Amazon for my DVDs.


58 posted on 04/19/2007 8:57:18 AM PDT by Brian Mosely (A government is a body of people -- usually notably ungoverned)
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To: montag813

PC can kill you. Blowing the whistle on this guy was against the law, right? How about an anonymous note to the local newspaper? (Thinking outside the box)


59 posted on 04/19/2007 8:58:13 AM PDT by ANGGAPO (LayteGulfBeachClub)
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To: Brian Mosely
MXC

One of the funniest shows on TV. We can't watch it without howling laughing at the people doing the challenges, much less the 'commentary' of the two guys.

60 posted on 04/19/2007 9:00:23 AM PDT by SuziQ
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