Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Riddle of 'Ismail Ax'
The Chosun Ilbo ^ | 4/19/2007 | unknown

Posted on 04/19/2007 2:59:04 AM PDT by Fighting Irish

What does the word “Ismail Ax” on an arm of the Virginia Tech shooter Cho Seung-hui mean? The Chicago Tribune on Wednesday suggested a reference to the Koran, where Ismail is a son of Abraham (or Ibrahim in Arabic). In Islam, Ismail destroyed idols using an ax with his father after converting to monotheism. In that case, “Ismail Ax” can be interpreted as the punishment of God for unjust acts.

In Christianity and Judaism, Ismail is an outcast. Abraham had Ismail by a slave because his wife Sarah was infertile. But later he expelled the slave and Ismail to the wilderness after Sarah gave birth to Isaac. Some say that Cho might have likened himself to Ismail, given that he was an outsider among fellow students. But since Cho majored in English, other theories speculate that Ismail is a protagonist from literature. Other suggestions include that Ismail is the name of a man who dated Cho’s ex-girlfriend, or is a cryptogram that needs to be deciphered.

Meanwhile, “Ismail Ax” became a top search item on the Web and the third hottest topic on Technorati.com, a U.S. web site that tracks the blogosphere. A man in Texas has come under fire for registering the domain www.ismailax.com as a domain after learning about the news.

(englishnews@chosun.com )


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ismailax; vatech; virginiatech
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last

1 posted on 04/19/2007 2:59:05 AM PDT by Fighting Irish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Fighting Irish; All
Note: in his NBC package, Cho alse referenced Christ.*

So, unless there is more evidence other than this Ismail thing, if you're going to argue that he was an islamofascist, then you should also argue that he was a "Christian extremist."

P.S. The point is that he probably was neither.

*He also apparently criticized Christianity, though.

2 posted on 04/19/2007 3:03:50 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jedi Master Pikachu

It’s better to just say he was evil, and get on with it.


3 posted on 04/19/2007 3:05:14 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Fighting Irish

MSNBC is reporting it was “ISMAEL Ax” on his arm - the Chicago Tribune stuff is ancient info.


4 posted on 04/19/2007 3:08:53 AM PDT by Strategerist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Page 2 of the manifesto per MSNBC contains:

“Now that you have gone 9/11 on my life like (profanity blacked out by MSNBC) Osama”

Also denigrates Kim Jong-il and Bush in the same paragraph.


5 posted on 04/19/2007 3:11:13 AM PDT by Strategerist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Jedi Master Pikachu

Did he reference Christ, or Jesus? Muslims make a lot of nonsense about Jesus, you know. Also, did you read his play, “McBeef”? He seems to lapse into Muslim idioms that make no sense in regards to his character. And did you know that Ismail was a name of a convicted terrorist just a few miles from where he lived who had recruited young South Korean men for jihad?


6 posted on 04/19/2007 3:11:50 AM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dangus
Did he reference Christ, or Jesus?

Yes - FOX News said yesterday there were profanity laced torrents against Christianity, but NBC said they were so vile and profane they edited them out and the excerpts were not shown on the clips released.

The possessed Cho also tried to say he was going to be crucified like Jesus Christ.

7 posted on 04/19/2007 3:14:23 AM PDT by SkyPilot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Jedi Master Pikachu

“”So, unless there is more evidence other than this Ismail thing, if you’re going to argue that he was an islamofascist, then you should also argue that he was a “Christian extremist.””

What does a Christian Extremist exactly look like? Well, there is that one family that is anti-American and protests against homosexuals at American Heroe’s funerals... but they are not radical, just evil and very, very stupid (the result of having a baby with one’s sister I suppose).

BTW, I know exactly what a radical islamic is and what they do. I also know that satan resides within the cult of islam... therefore islam has as it’s bedrock... evil.

LLS


8 posted on 04/19/2007 3:18:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: dangus

This is a remarkable coincidence. Source?


9 posted on 04/19/2007 3:19:46 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Amos the Prophet
This is a remarkable coincidence. Source?

What's remarkable is people are incapable of reading and noting that the it now seems that the ENTIRE "Ismail" thing was wholly bogus.

10 posted on 04/19/2007 3:22:28 AM PDT by Strategerist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dangus
Also, did you read his play, “McBeef”? He seems to lapse into Muslim idioms that make no sense in regards to his character.

To be brutally honest, anyone that sees anything remotely islamic about "Richard McBeef" is either on crack or almost as nutty as Cho himself.

11 posted on 04/19/2007 3:23:17 AM PDT by Strategerist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Strategerist

Gee, I’m on crack or nutty enough to slaughter a few dozen college kids? Not that you’d engage in over-heated rhetoric, though...

Tell me this: you ever hear a non-Muslim use the expression, “fat piece of pork”? (Not “fat pig,” mind you, but “fat pig of pork”?) Or did you ever bang your shoes off as a sign of disrespect?


12 posted on 04/19/2007 3:27:50 AM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer

You just said that that “one family” are evil.

And then you said radical Islam is evil.

The devil can work with whatever foothold he is given.


13 posted on 04/19/2007 3:28:33 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Life isn't fair. It's just fairer than death, that's all.--William Goldman)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: LibLieSlayer

>> What does a Christian Extremist exactly look like? Well, there is that one family that is anti-American and protests against homosexuals at American Heroe’s funerals... but they are not radical, just evil and very, very stupid (the result of having a baby with one’s sister I suppose). <<

Not only that, but they aren’t Christian extremists. Fred Phelps is an old friend of Al Gore who is working to help Democrats by making the religious right look scary and un-American.


14 posted on 04/19/2007 3:29:38 AM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Amos the Prophet

“Virginia Killer Part of Paintball Jihad”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819029/posts


15 posted on 04/19/2007 3:34:02 AM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: dangus

Excuse me, the previous artice title should have ended with a question mark.


16 posted on 04/19/2007 3:35:13 AM PDT by dangus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: dangus
And did you know that Ismail was a name of a convicted terrorist just a few miles from where he lived who had recruited young South Korean men for jihad?

Woah! Nope, nobody has mentioned this in all the coverage.
17 posted on 04/19/2007 3:54:52 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: All
Several years ago a mentally ill man shot up a Jewish center and later murdered a non-white postal employee.

Though no memberships in any "white supremacist" groups could be found the MSM nevertheless began to report on "lone wolves."

It was the new tactic of the "Christian white supremacist" groups reported the MSM. Watch out, they are everywhere.

Don't even think about radical Muslim lone wolves -- some would have us say nothing even if Al Qaeda said it was one of their tactics. Go figure.

18 posted on 04/19/2007 3:59:08 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Strategerist

thanks...


19 posted on 04/19/2007 4:06:46 AM PDT by InsNerd (Insurance Nerd)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: dangus
And did you know that Ismail was a name of a convicted terrorist just a few miles from where he lived who had recruited young South Korean men for jihad?

Yep

20 posted on 04/19/2007 4:08:30 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson