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1 posted on 04/18/2007 5:35:29 PM PDT by jdm
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To: Charles Henrickson; nonsporting; Kevmo

FYI, ABC News is still very much interested in the “Ismail Ax” hypothesis.


2 posted on 04/18/2007 5:36:54 PM PDT by jdm
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He appears in the Christian, Muslim and Islamic faiths

*giggle*

3 posted on 04/18/2007 5:37:20 PM PDT by SolidWood (Islam is an insanity cult that makes everyone act Arab)
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A similar name, Ishmael, is widely known as the name of the eldest son of Abraham, father of the Israelites.

I'm confused.

4 posted on 04/18/2007 5:38:00 PM PDT by Petronski (FRED!)
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He appears in the Christian, Muslim and Islamic faiths, and his character is both revered and criticized throughout all three religions.

So now "muslim" and "islamic" are two different things? I *think* he meant to say Jewish but with reporters these days...

6 posted on 04/18/2007 5:39:07 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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So ABC is going to ignore the spelling difference and the meaning there of: Ismail/Ishmael


7 posted on 04/18/2007 5:39:26 PM PDT by donna (America used up all the good weather.)
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“Others recognize the name Ismail for its religious significance . A similar name, Ishmael, is widely known as the name of the eldest son of Abraham, father of the Israelites.”

It’s the same name, different language.

“He appears in the Christian, Muslim and Islamic faiths,”

Well, it’s ABC after all.


8 posted on 04/18/2007 5:39:35 PM PDT by Shermy
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I’m as intrigued about this as anyone, but doesn’t it seem kind of unseemly to present a special about this?

Ratings from massacre.


9 posted on 04/18/2007 5:39:43 PM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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I read it as “is mail a ten”, the answer is no.


13 posted on 04/18/2007 5:43:25 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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Maybe the guy had been reading up on his possible mental illness diagnosis.

Professor Ismail AK,M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.


14 posted on 04/18/2007 5:46:31 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservtism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocent)
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He wrote his name as “A. Ismail” on the package he mailed NBC.


16 posted on 04/18/2007 5:48:24 PM PDT by weegee (Libs want us to learn to live with terrorism, but if a gun is used they want to rewrite the Const.)
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ahmadinejad’s always talking about the return of the 12th,

or hidden or expected imam, that will return as the mahdi.


18 posted on 04/18/2007 5:49:52 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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A similar name, Ishmael, is widely known as the name of the eldest son of Abraham, father of the Israelites.

They're officially retarded.

Or they're trying to blame the Joos.

The Israelite line went down through Isaac. Ishmael's descendants were promised to be trouble. Ismail is the Arabic spelling.

My head hurts.

24 posted on 04/18/2007 5:56:18 PM PDT by AnnaZ (I keep 2 magnums in my desk.One's a gun and I keep it loaded.Other's a bottle and it keeps me loaded)
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Let’s ask Fermat. It’s a joke. He just did it to make us think it actually meant something so he could mess with our minds for ages.


29 posted on 04/18/2007 6:02:41 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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What did ismail ax?


30 posted on 04/18/2007 6:03:01 PM PDT by doc1019 (Fred Thompson '08)
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This is not a bad piece for the MSM. I could grade them on a curve.

Or I could do a Simon Cowell: “how a troubled kid could commit an act so terrible.” What an utterly puerile piece of analysis. How about a little sympathy for the 32 people murdered by this piece of human excrement?

33 posted on 04/18/2007 6:04:21 PM PDT by ChessExpert (Mohamed was not a moderate Muslim)
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A similar name, Ishmael, is widely known as the name of the eldest son of Abraham, father of the Israelites.

A little confusing. Through Abraham's son Isaac came Jacob (Israel) from whence the Israelites obtain their name. Decendents of Ismael, the Ismaelites, are the Arabs.

Prayers for all those killed in this tragic massacre, including thier families.

38 posted on 04/18/2007 6:12:18 PM PDT by TotusTuus (Christos Voskrese!)
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He seems to have been fixated by religious icons and biblical testimony and stories.

Most likely he mixed much of it together to form distorted and warped and wrong ideas to support his violent nature.

I wish I understood why nuts like him are often drawn to religion (?) and believe God is commanding them to commit violence, etc.


42 posted on 04/18/2007 6:17:12 PM PDT by unsycophant
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Maybe he is just a nut case who made something up with no real connection to anything that existed outside of his mind? He likeed watching wrestling, maybe he thought it would be a cool character name.


43 posted on 04/18/2007 6:19:17 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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Ismail is the transliteration of the Arabic or Muslim version of the name. Ibrahim is the Arabic version of Abraham.

There still is some question whether Ismail was a Muslim convert or not, but it is the likeliest explanation for his putting it on his arm.

Apparently he wrote it at least three times, on his arm, in his suicide note, and on the return address of his package to MSNBC.

Even if he was not Muslim, it would appear that took an interest in the Muslim version of the story of Ismail. In that version, Ibrahim and Ismail use axes to destroy the pagan temples, before they build the Kaaba. This is interpreted by Muslims as an early form of Jihad, destroying idolatry and prostitution before setting up the Temple of Allah.

In the Muslim version Ismail is the chosen son, not the outcast. Allah tells Ibrahim to sacrifice Ismail, not Isaac. Ismail is a key prophet, the chosen son, who is the progenitor of the Arabic race.

As the chosen son and as the destroyer of idolatry, it is a much more likely symbol to be on a killer’s arm than the name of an obscure Turkish psychiatrist. Why would a killer put a psychiatrist’s name on his arm, when he could identify with a prophet, a jihadist, a destroyer of idols and prostitutes?


48 posted on 04/18/2007 6:29:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The return address on the package he sent to NBC was from A. Ishmael, not Ismail. Maybe the writing on his arm was smeared, but this is written by him and is clearly this spelling.


49 posted on 04/18/2007 6:31:32 PM PDT by merockstar
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