Posted on 04/18/2007 7:14:49 AM PDT by Spiff
Edited on 04/18/2007 8:48:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court upheld the nationwide ban on a controversial abortion procedure Wednesday, handing abortion opponents the long-awaited victory they expected from a more conservative bench.
The 5-4 ruling said the Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act that Congress passed and President Bush signed into law in 2003 does not violate a woman's constitutional right to an abortion.
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The child exists at conception:
“Begat sons and daughters” Gen 5:3,4,28-30 Begat always refers to conception and fertilization.
“children & sons in womb” Gen 25:21-22; 2 Ki 19:3; Ruth 1:11
“a man child conceived” Job 3:3 notice the difference: day of birth, night conceived see Rev 12:5 “man child born”
“mother” of unborn child Num 12:12; Lk 1:43
Rom 9:11 for though the twins were not yet born, and had not done anything good or bad
“baby leapt for joy” in mother’s womb Lk 1:41,44
conceived a “son” Lk 1:36; Acts 7:29
“Whosoever is holy [i.e., in a state of sanctifying grace], let him approach. Whosoever is not, let him repent” (Didache 10)
“His whole purpose is to kill, steal, and destroy.
He doesn’t care when or where.”
Who??? Bush???
How old is Stevens? 85?
However, you must also take into account the mood of the USA outside Free Republic and the mood is as nasty against conservatives as it was against liberals after Jimmy Carter's term.
We have George W. Bush's inability or unwillingness to use the Bully Pulpit effectively to thank for that.
Rudy knows how to use the Bully Pulpit effectively and he is a Republican that would be a favorite to win in November.
A conservative that will go down to defeat in November in a conservative blaze of glory will get a hard core liberal elected that will pack SCOTUS with Ruth Ginsburg clones that will enshrine abortion as a Constitutional right for generations to come.
At least Rudy will nominate justices along more conservative lines.
In the end, even if Roe v. Wade is overturned, it will mean that abortion is a State's Right issue unless an Abortion Rights Amendment is passed.
From what I have heard, Rudy is fine with a State's Rights position and, since the liberals will never succeed in passing an Abortion Rights Amendment and conservatives will never succeed in passing an Abortion Prohibition Amendment, that is as good as it's going to get.
Exactly. babies=money
Cut out the gravy train and the welfare birth rate will plummet.
Actually, if you want to get down to brass tacks, the 14th Amendment supersedes anything in the "original" Constitution.
Which is more developed, a 3 yr old or a 20 yr old?
Should we say its OK to abort the 3yr old because he is less developed?
Thank you, for posting your favorite verses, they’re awesome!
Which is exacly why this decision is significant - in the respect of giving the aborted baby some “personhood” that was stolen in the Roe v. Wade decision.
Abortion was illegal (with criminal liability attached for those performing them) in every state until the 1960's. Up until then, the law made no distinction between a baby in the womb and a baby outside the womb.
But even if that were true, the law once made a distinction that allowed you to own an African. The exact procedure by which some evil bag of garbage in a black robe determines it should be legal to rip a small child limb from limb has no more bearing on this discussion than the evil that allowed people to employ Africans as automatic cotton-harvesting machines.
OMG, don’t you know that W is a huge turncoat and has nevar done anything conservative EVAR!!!!11111eleventy
(FYI: the above statement is pure sarcasm)
“Not all Conservatives see everything the same way. Some conservatives are into realpolitik. Others are more libertarian. Still others are Christian right. These groups don’t see everything in lockstep.”
jude24 “gets it”...thanks!
Bible verses aren’t a sufficient argument for who should be President. Martin Luther rightly observed that it is better to be raised by a wise Turk than a foolish Christian.
Lot’s of friends on this thread.
I don't care what the RINO's do. BTW, who exactly is not a RINO? I can't name any prominent elected republican that is fiscal conservative and in favor of a limited government.
The fact remains that the GOP gets out the message that overturning Roe is its #1 priority and it is in their grasp then the women voters in this country will give the GOP a severe beating in 2008.
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“Which is more developed, a 3 yr old or a 20 yr old?
Should we say its OK to abort the 3yr old because he is less developed?”
We’re not talking about 3 year old children here...we’re talking about fetuses in the womb. Nice try.
No, Satan. See post 334
While it must be nice to have your answers readily available.. Some of us need to work out questions on our own to be satisfied :).
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