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Let Freedom Ring,
Posted on 04/18/2007 5:08:36 AM PDT by libstripper
Last year Virginia legislators considered a bill that would have overridden policies at public universities that prohibit students and faculty members with concealed handgun permits from bringing their weapons onto campus. After the bill died in committee, The Roanoke Times reported, Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker welcomed its defeat, saying, "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."
Maybe Hincker was right. But as Monday's horrifying mass murder at Virginia Tech vividly demonstrated, there is a difference between feeling safe and being safe. The university's gun ban not only did nothing to protect people at the school; it left them defenseless as a cold-blooded gunman methodically killed 32 of them over the course of two and a half hours.
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I asked her if the shooter would have a gun if there was a ban - she said "No. Of course not."
"Why not?" I asked. "Well, it would be illegal to have one" she responded.
"Isn't it also illegal to kill those 31 people?" I asked.
No response.
It was also illegal to have a gun on campus. Fat lotta good that did us.
Since God, Jesus, and the Scriptures can't be referenced openly at all at public institutions these days, evil and Satan's door is wide open to the kids.
Your family member is a twit ... no offense
Gotta love those “(Fill in the blank)-free zones” at schools. Those are all about soothing the parents, not preventing any crimes.
None taken - when you marry the daughter, you marry the family.
"Why not?" I asked. "Well, it would be illegal to have one" she responded.
This is the classic "magical" thinking. We're always just one or two laws short of Nirvana.
Not to find absolute fault, but VT had a well trained security force in place. You know, like everywhere all the time, armed, well trained to bust the pot smokers, drunks, unauthorized assemblies, and parking violators, etc., etc.
“Since God, Jesus, and the Scriptures can’t be referenced openly at all at public institutions these days, evil and Satan’s door is wide open to the kids.”
So True - I’ve been saying this for years.
And here’s what happened on a Virginia campus in 2002, when students were able to retrieve firearms from their vehicles:
Fri, 18 Jan 2002
EX-CHARLOTTEAN: I HELPED NAB SUSPECT;
Diane Suchetka
Charlotte Observer (North Carolina)
One of the four students who subdued a gunman at the Appalachian School of Law in Virginia on Wednesday is an N.C. native and former Charlottean.
Mikael Gross, 34, a first-year student at the small school in Grundy, Va., told The Observer he worked as a state alcohol law enforcement agent in Charlotte from 1996 until 1998 and earned a master’s degree in criminal justice at UNC Charlotte in 1997.
Two other men who helped bring the gunman under control also have worked as law enforcement officers in North Carolina - in Asheville and Wilmington, Gross said.
Gross was walking back to the law school from lunch just after 1 p.m. Wednesday with four classmates when he heard a gunshot. He yelled to the others to take cover and watched as students ran from a student lounge in the administration building.
“People were running everywhere,” Gross said. “They were jumping behind cars, running out in front of traffic, trying to get away.”
Gross ran to his car, parked about 100 yards away, without dropping the gunman from his sight, grabbed his bullet-proof vest from his trunk and a gun from under his front seat.
While the man pointed his gun at fellow students, Gross and two others ran toward him from different directions.
One of the others was Tracy Bridges, a Buncombe County sheriff’s deputy from Asheville, who also had his gun, Gross said.
When the gunman saw them, Gross said, he put his weapon down and his hands up.
I know a lot of the VT police and they are heroes. They literally ran to the sound of gunfire, even driving across the drillfield. But the doors of that building IIRC are really stout and they couldn’t get in. They also weren’t sure who to shoot when they got in.
It’s just awful.
Hincker was so wrong that he is criminally negligent.
How can ANYONE agree with him now, after they removed the right of self defence from 32 individuals, many who were lined up and executed with a shot into the back of the head. As a free people we WILL NOT TOLERATE SUCH CARNAGE ENABLERS.
Hincker is criminally negligent. along with all the mooonbat liberal ivory tower Ignoramuses, who think nothing of paternalistically taking away the individual right of self defence of its students, and abrogating the right each student has under the 2nd amendment of the united states, as fecently decided in a Washington D.C, federal court.
Hincker and the whole liberal moonbat VT administration should be put behind bars and chgarged with criminal negligence, and with the violation of the civil rights of those executed by one gun toting, hateful, little rat.
As Americans we need to again stand tall, shoot straight, and help ourselves and each other. The liberals who want "gun control" can GTH.
I agree—BUT: We cannot be seduced by the liberal impulse that every problem can be fixed. Even if many of us were armed, bad things could still happen. There is no fullproof protection against evil.
It's not Cho that is the absolute thief of so many innocent lives, it's evil that needed a physical body.
These facts compound the university’s involvement with the chain of events of this mass murder.
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Let Freedom Ring,
This reminds me (again) of Reagan’s quote: It isn’t that the Democrats are ignorant, it’s just that they know so much which isn’t true. (parapharase, but almost exactly what he said)
Well, the Democrats and other morons are so dumb, they think we would all be better off when the only people with guns are criminals and the government. Just one teacher or student carrying a concealed weapon could have stopped the killing at VT.
This is what the Rosies of the liberal world don't get...of course, they are hiding behind their armed security guards so they don't have to. If the state takes away a citizen's right to defend his or herself, then the state is responsible for ensuring the safety, not the "illusion of safety", but the actual safe passage of each and every citizen through out our daily lives.
With the liberals gun laws, we are like domesticated animals. And just like any keeper must ensure the safety of the animals the keeper has domesticated when those animals are exposed to predators, the state has the same obligation. Otherwise, let us defend ourselves the way God and Messrs. Colt, Remington, Glock, Sig, etc. have intended.
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