Report: Problems With Black Men Are Major U.S. Crisis (Urban League)

Local 6 (Florida) ^ | April 17, 2007

[blam]

"After all, what was once "Little Africa" in 19th Century New York became Little Italy after some Sicillians told the swarthy ones to head uptown or eat steel for their last meal."

I always wondered how we got Annette as a mouseketeer.

[Rembrandt]

It seems to me that a better use of taxpayer funds would be to focus on black women (dump the African-American term), and specifically, focus on black women who excel in secondary school. Then, give them incentives to go to and complete college.

Assist them to get decent paying jobs.

Encourage them to buy homes and leave the ghettoes.

In sum, leave the black scum males behind to celebrate their lack of education and rot in their slime.

[Clemenza]

It was all in the Skippy. Although I always found Flo Henderson and her Wesson oil more erotic. ;-)

[RockinRight]

Here’s a thought:

Stop joining gangs, dropping out of school, and being a “gangsta” and you might be surprised at the result.

[Stoat]

In 5 years, the mexican gangs are gonna make black urbans look like boy scouts.

MS-13 and others will educate the Crips and Bloods as to what the word 'violence' truly means.  And the decent families in those communities will be caught in the crossfire.  And the Urban League will issue yet another boilerplate report stating that it's all from lack of Government spending and programs, which they will tie to 'racism'..

And Bill Cosby will be saying "I told you so."

[stephenjohnbanker]

Amen to all you said : )

[etlib]

Stop joining gangs, dropping out of school, and being a “gangsta” and you might be surprised at the result.

Two things are what's required:

1. Stop blaming others, i.e. white people
2. Take responsibility for your own life (don't expect government to do it for you)

[CheyennePress]

Speaking as someone who is close to several people teaching in primarily black school, separating by gender sounds like a good idea, honestly.

There’s a lot of show-boating and a lot of fights that result out of relationships/you said this about my girlfriend.... That sort of thing.

But honestly, the family is at the root of this. That and a culture of dependence that shuns achievement in anything academic.

I attended an intersting high school in the late 90s. It was about 60% white, 40% black. A majority of the families worked in the same factory, so their salaries were comparalbe. The tax dollars this plant brought in made our school system the most well-funded public school system in the state, despite not really having a wealthy student population.

There was one black (a girl) to finish in the top 10% of my school in a decade. The opportunity was there, the facilities were there, the quality teachers were there, the socioeconomics were as equal as they were going to be. And yet still, the above result.

That’s a cultural failing. No mistake about it.

[RockinRight]

Basically what Bill Cosby said.

[RockinRight]

It’s unfortunate that white people cannot discuss these things without being called “racist.”

[CheyennePress]

*salaries were comparable. But you all knew that. ;)

[WSGilcrest]

...and to think it used to be illegal to educate a black

[jackieaxe]

The deal is Dad needs to be there. With an out of wedlock birth rate close to 70%, that’s the root of the African-American Community’s problems. Until last week, I’d be afraid to say that, but since the faux Revs seem so ready to correct Whitey, their is it. Or is it, “Whoops, there it is!”. BTW, I’m rooting for all of you. Come on in (to American society), the water’s warm!

[Stoat]

http://www.nul.org/thestateofblackamerica.html

you can’t even read the damned thing unless you BUY it...

Geez!  I guess they want the full results of their report available only to the elite, not the poor black Americans whom the report is supposedly about.

According to the Amazon listing, the document is 320 pages long but they could still release it as a free PDF download if they were truly interested in getting their report out to as many people as possible.

For a lot of people, eleven dollars plus shipping would represent a significant chunk of a week's grocery money.  But I guess that this report isn't meant for them.....

Thanks for your excellent research.  I would never have thought to check, assuming as I did that such a report would 'of course' be free to all.

How naive of me.

 

http://www.nul.org/thestateofblackamerica.html

you can’t even read the damned thing unless you BUY it...

[happygrl]

Some twenty years ago, the President of Hunter College in NYC, a woman who is of Jamaican descent, advocated for public boarding schools to get young black children out of their culture of crime and into a culture of progress.

She was roundly condemed (By the Black Community), but I think she was on to something.

Boarding schools for the early grades seem unusual to us, but in the Brtish culture, and even throughout Africa, children went off at a young age and returned home on holidays. They were in a controlled environment, and in Africa, learned to speak excellent English.

[Stoat]

Some twenty years ago, the President of Hunter College in NYC, a woman who is of Jamaican descent, advocated for public boarding schools to get young black children out of their culture of crime and into a culture of progress.

I'm guessing that Jamaicans aren't regarded by other black Americans as "authentic" blacks, just as Condi Rice and Colin Powell aren't regarded as 'authentic' because they aren't hard-left Socialists who are focused on endless Government programs and handouts in an effort to maintain their political power.

She was roundly condemed (By the Black Community), but I think she was on to something.

They would need to first recognize where the problem is, which they have no interest in doing.  And yes, you are indeed onto something.

Boarding schools for the early grades seem unusual to us, but in the Brtish culture, and even throughout Africa, children went off at a young age and returned home on holidays. They were in a controlled environment, and in Africa, learned to speak excellent English.
 

It's a wonderful idea that would address and most likely solve a very great need.  The difficulty is that it would represent political suicide for black as well as white liberal politicians, who have been telling us for decades that all of the problems of black America are exclusively due to white racism.  To see instant successes from such a worthy plan as yours would show the voting constituency of these politicians and activists that they have been lied to for the past sixty years, and all would be instantly booted out of office.  The Urban League, the NAACP and other racial pressure groups would fall apart and black America would become a powerful economic engine with a strong cultural base that would make all Americans beam with pride.

But this won't happen because too many people make their living off of maintaining a modern black Plantation, where everyone on the Plantation is beholden to Government for their meager existence.

Yes, it's evil.  Yes, it should be criminal.  But that is the face of modern Socialism and the American hard Left.

"sigh"

Some twenty years ago, the President of Hunter College in NYC, a woman who is of Jamaican descent, advocated for public boarding schools to get young black children out of their culture of crime and into a culture of progress.

I'm guessing that Jamaicans aren't regarded by other black Americans as "authentic" blacks, just as Condi Rice and Colin Powell aren't regarded as 'authentic' because they aren't hard-left Socialists who are focused on endless Government programs and handouts in an effort to maintain their political power.

She was roundly condemed (By the Black Community), but I think she was on to something.

They would need to first recognize where the problem is, which they have no interest in doing.  And yes, you are indeed onto something.

Boarding schools for the early grades seem unusual to us, but in the Brtish culture, and even throughout Africa, children went off at a young age and returned home on holidays. They were in a controlled environment, and in Africa, learned to speak excellent English.
 

[takenoprisoner]

“We need a public commitment in the form of concrete policy strategies to help lift them out of their state of underachievement and put them on equal footing with white men in this nation.”

We need more money from white men.

[happygrl]

Jamaicans have a reputation for being very hardworking, and comprise a high percentage of those attending college in the City College system of NYC. They are resented for this.

Middle class blacks who pay high taxes are beginning to get off the Plantation.

Change comes slowly, but until the Sharptons and the Jacksons die off, they will be the "go-to" guys for the opinion seekers.

[Stoat]

There was one black (a girl) to finish in the top 10% of my school in a decade. The opportunity was there, the facilities were there, the quality teachers were there, the socioeconomics were as equal as they were going to be. And yet still, the above result.

That’s a cultural failing. No mistake about it.

Obvious truths such as what you state are typically dispensed with as "racist and closed-minded innuendo that is not supported by statistical models"

Fascinating story, thanks very much for posting.  The saddest thing is all of the lives that are needlessly wasted over this anti-intellectual plague which has obvious and tangible solutions.

In a similar vein, I recall a massive (and breathtakingly expensive) test that was done in (I believe) East St. Louis.  In fact, I think that there was even a '60 Minutes' segment on it, hard as it may be to believe.  Anyway, what was done was a Liberal's dream.  The most destitute, most poorly-performing and most run-down school system was identified and I believe hundreds of millions of dollars were thrown at it.  A new High School including an Olympic-sized pool, all of the best equipment everywhere, all of the best books and study aids imaginable.  And the results?  The test scores went DOWN.

The age-old question is, how do you change a culture when you have Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Maxine Waters standing in the schoolhouse door screaming RACIST! at you?

How can anyone overcome this?

Millions upon millions of people have had their entire lives needlessly destroyed as a result of our inability to answer this question.

There was one black (a girl) to finish in the top 10% of my school in a decade. The opportunity was there, the facilities were there, the quality teachers were there, the socioeconomics were as equal as they were going to be. And yet still, the above result.

That’s a cultural failing. No mistake about it.