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University convocation told of Allah, not Jesus
WorldNetDaily ^ | 4/17/07 | WorldNetDaily

Posted on 04/17/2007 5:19:24 PM PDT by wagglebee

Speakers at the Virginia Tech convocation yesterday called on Allah and Buddha in their efforts to minister to the survivors, family and friends of victims of the shooting massacre at the school – but Jesus wasn't mentioned.

It was left up to President Bush to come the closest to offering a biblical message of hope, when he suggested the school community that lost 32 members to the shootings by an out-of-control resident alien student find "comfort in the grace and guidance of a loving God."

But even he didn't bring Jesus, the only hope of comfort and future life for Christians, into the memorials.

"I'm sitting here watching the convocation service at VT," wrote a WND reader who was given anonymity. "Five minutes ago they had four representatives from the local 'religious community.' The Muslim specifically invoked Allah's blessings… and he didn't shy away from saying the name of Allah. The Jewish rep asked for God's blessings. Buddha was represented. The only name that [was] omitted, of course, Jesus Christ."

And another WND reader cited the speakers, in order:

"BUT NOT ONE EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN PASTOR/PREACHER. NO INVOCATION OF THE NAME OF CHRIST JESUS," the reader said.

"The only thing that surprised me, though, is that they didn't have a rep from the Universal Life 'church' or the 'Church of Satan.' Go figure," said the first reader.

It was up to the president to deliver references to Christianity.

"People who have never met you are praying for you," Bush said. "They're praying for your friends who have fallen and who are injured. There's a power in these prayers, a real power. In times like this, we can find comfort in the grace and the guidance of a loving God."

Most of the other official statements of condolence released also ignored the savior of the Christian faith.

"Today is a day to reflect on our many blessings of family, neighbors, and our Blacksburg community, which includes the students of Virginia Tech," said a statement from the town of Blacksburg, where Virginia Tech is located.

"I urge Virginians to keep these victims and their families in their thoughts and prayers," said Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine, a Democrat.

"In time, Americans will learn more about the circumstances of this senseless tragedy. For now and forever after, our hearts and prayers are with the victims, their families, and the other students, faculty and staff of Virginia Tech, and their families," said Sen. John W. Warner, a Republican.

"My heart goes out to the parents and families of the victims of this senseless act," said Sen. Jim Webb, a Democrat.

The school has announced a candlelight vigil to honor the victims of the mass killing Monday. The campus also was ordered closed through this week, and counseling services were being made available to students, faculty and staff.

"We come to express our sympathy in this time of anguish. I hope you know that people all over this country are thinking about you and asking God to provide comfort for all who have been affected," the president told the community assembly.

"May God bless you and keep you and keep the souls of the lost and may his love touch all of those who suffer and grieve," he concluded.

He earlier had ordered U.S. flags to be flown at half staff at the White House, federal buildings and grounds, naval craft and military posts through Sunday.

"Our nation grieves with those who have lost loved ones at Virginia Tech. We hold the victims in our hearts. We lift them up in our prayers, and we ask a loving God to comfort those who are suffering," Bush said in the flag proclamation.

Authorities have identified the shooter as Cho Seung-Hui, 23, a senior English major at the school whose class writings were so disturbing he previously had been referred for counseling.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: apostate; christianity; leftists; massacre; vatech; virginiatech; vtech
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To: 353FMG

And God. They called on God as well.


161 posted on 04/17/2007 7:35:04 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Major_Risktaker

Offended, offended. Sounds like the Sharpton and Jackson show.


162 posted on 04/17/2007 7:36:28 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: Wormwood

No!? Understanding and forgiveness? Why didn’t he call for the heads of every Korean in the place?

What the heck should he say at such a moment? Lynch the guy that did this? Ooops, already dead. The only words we have to offer at such a terrible time are words of comfort and words usually fall short.

We all need some forgiveness and understanding. Jesus was a big proponant of that.


163 posted on 04/17/2007 7:39:55 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: wagglebee
"The only thing that surprised me, though, is that they didn't have a rep from the Universal Life 'church'

That's covered by the shallow reps of other faiths.

or the 'Church of Satan.'

That would be the defaced shooter.

164 posted on 04/17/2007 7:41:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: pa mom
We all need some forgiveness and understanding. Jesus was a big proponant of that.

Someone should explain that to his followers, quick!

165 posted on 04/17/2007 7:41:10 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: longtermmemmory

Wellstone’s memorial was turned into a blatantly political moment. A little off the mark, here.

The OP here is not entirely credible.


166 posted on 04/17/2007 7:41:40 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: wagglebee

Jesus is coming back and He is NOT happy.


167 posted on 04/17/2007 7:41:44 PM PDT by afnamvet (It is what it is)
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To: afnamvet
Jesus is coming back and He is NOT happy.

Everybody look busy.

168 posted on 04/17/2007 7:42:32 PM PDT by Wormwood (Future Former Freeper)
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To: Chena
Perhaps there wasn't a priest available on such short notice?

The leader of the free world made time to show up.
Surely a priest was available from somewhere in this nation.

169 posted on 04/17/2007 7:42:45 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: ShandaLear
I wouldn't’ call proclaiming the Gospel and magnifying Jesus tripe. You do. You don’t agree with what I discerned from Cheyna’s words? Oh well. That’s what this forum is for—commentary and opinion. Thanks for sharing yours.
170 posted on 04/17/2007 7:43:48 PM PDT by 1lawlady (To G-d be the glory. Great things He has done!)
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To: ctdonath2

Kaine is Catholic. Maybe they figured he was good for a two-fer.


171 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:09 PM PDT by pa mom
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Beautiful and appropriate...

and TRUE


172 posted on 04/17/2007 7:44:40 PM PDT by Former
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To: CharlesWayneCT
And they did sing “Amazing Grace”.

Interesting that that hymn should be chosen. My Lutheran pastor does not like that hymn because any religion could adopt it. It is not obviously about Christ.

173 posted on 04/17/2007 7:51:11 PM PDT by stayathomemom
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To: stayathomemom

Give me a break! They probably chose it because most everyone there knows the words!

This thread is reminding me of the whole Imus thing. People are looking for a reason to be offended!


174 posted on 04/17/2007 7:55:59 PM PDT by pa mom (God bless Tech--and I'm a Wahoo!)
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To: Major_Risktaker; TrishaSC
I will agree with you when Saudi Arabia opens 100 Church & 100 Synagogues and allows religions freedom to all people.

I'd settle for just a few of each, and the freedom to bring Bibles into their country. Hypocrites.

Allowing some muslim to invoke bloodthirsty Allah, and to read the jihad-inspiring Koran in a public convocation commemorating the deaths of nonmuslim students in Virginia is offensive.

175 posted on 04/17/2007 7:57:07 PM PDT by teawithmisswilliams (Basta, already!)
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To: Doe Eyes

That we allow these minority religions to speak, demonstrates the cesspool we have become.

How nice of you. That's what Germany said about the Jews in the 1930's. One of the people who spoke today represented the minority religion of Judaism.

176 posted on 04/17/2007 7:57:44 PM PDT by retMD
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To: pa mom

didn’t you hear the bit about the “commonwealth” means it is all community property and everything belongs to everyone?

very socialist pushing.

The only credible part was the President.


177 posted on 04/17/2007 7:58:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: wagglebee
I watched the entire convocation...Jesus (and Christianity) were addressed. Gov. Kaine referenced Jesus on the Cross, crying out 'My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?' A very moving and appropriate reference; the Gov. also cited Job. President Bush referenced God. The Jewish (rabbi?) woman read Ecclesiates (in English, translated into Hebrew).

The Lutheran Minister spoke (I thought) in 'new agey' text. One would think that a Christian minister would reference the Saviour...but maybe I am wrong.

178 posted on 04/17/2007 8:06:19 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean THEY aren't out to get you...)
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To: 1lawlady

That is an outright lie.


179 posted on 04/17/2007 8:08:10 PM PDT by ShandaLear (When something is true, one need not lie to prove it.)
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To: ShandaLear
Mother Theresa? OMG! How do you sleep at night? LOL!

Okay, okay - my point is that even Jesus' name is being taken out of the church, and being replaced by the less controversial.

180 posted on 04/17/2007 8:11:56 PM PDT by too much time (No, God is not a woman.)
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