Was Virginia Tech killer a Muslim terrorist? (Some minor hints he was.)

Allah Pundit, Little Green Footballs, Smoking Gun ^ | 4/17/07 | Dangus

[fooman]

lady macbeth harmed others to fulfill blind ambition ....

[dangus]

What’s John’s ambition?

[GOP_1900AD]

An interesting, perhaps relavant, perhaps irrelevant tid bit, is that when you set aside the borrowed-from-Chinese writing systems , both Korean and Japanese are linguistically similar to Central Asian Turkic Languages. The actual words, with the exception of borrowed Chinese ones for numbers and a few other odd words, are utterly unlike those of Chinese or any other East Asian language.

[ChessExpert]

But notice how everyone forgets the DC sniper, the utah mall shooting and NC state suv incident.

The El Al (sp?) counter shooting at LAX.
The Muslim cabbie driving over his fares after an argument on religion in Nashville

These are five clear incidents in the United States. I don’t think any have been acknowledged as terrorism by either the MSM or the FBI.

So I think it is right to ask, “is this another act of sudden Jihad syndrome?” At the moment the answer seems to be “no,” IMHO. But it is best to track all leads to their conclusion. The “Ismail Ax” on his arm (and letter?) is intriguing. But there seem to be lots of indicators that he was a major league kook. It seems to me that some kooks gravitate to the obnoxious simply for effect. So a nut case may adopt a swastika, KKK, satanic symbol, or, now, Islamic indicators simply to say ‘look at me.” His papers and the contents of his hard disk are more information. That information will probably be filtered twice (authorities, MSM) before we get it.

[cake_crumb]

Actually, the moment I heard he was Asian I was prepared to bet money he was North Korean agent or the offspring of a pair of them - but the more details come out, the more likely it is that he was a paranoid schizophrenic. Hatred of religion, hatred of God and hatred of male authority figures is not unknown among them. The persecution complex is a classic symptom. Add meth or other speed addiction and you have your detailed hallucinations and psychotic fantasies totally unrelated to the illness added on top of the paranoid dillusions in an individual who's self control appears non-existant.

None of which excuses what he did. And none of it explains the dismal lack of help provided by therapy - up to and including a recommendation for hospitalization.

[SauronOfMordor]

you don’t have a kill ratio of 68% (32 dead, 15 wounded; 32 divided by 47 = 68%) without training..this guy knew what he was doing with a gun..

You can become very proficient with firearms without being in the military or police

[fooman]

what if the antecedent were the charlatans?

[Suzy Quzy]

I’ll paint the murderer as a Ritalin or Prozac taker.

[Leftism is Mentally Deranged]

Speculation. Let’s wait until we have some facts.

[Leisler]

Pictures of Chu in INDONESIA?

He's a South Korean. Ismail is not his real name. He use it because his name is very hard to pronounce, especially for Indonesian people. His real name is Cho Seung Hoo ....... or is it Jo Sung Ho?

at
http://flickr.com/photos/eldarossell/203788467

There are 96 pictures in eldarossell's. Chu is second to last. Last is a lady with her head covered?

[Nachum]

In a way, he fits a pattern of sudden jihadist.

He separated himself from the infidels at Virginia Tech.
He performed an honor killing on his woman before setting accross campus to act out his planned jihad attack
He chained the doors to the building to make sure his victim count was as high as possible
He shot his victims systematically as if he had trained well for the action
He erased the serial numbers on the weapons to hinder any attempt to connect other members of a cell to the weapons used.
When cornered by the enemy, he killed himself to avoid interragation to reveal the members of his cell.
He shot himself in the face to inhibit identification and give his accomplice (s) ample time to leave the area by way of association.
Left a cryptic note with only a casual reference to Islamic reference to only mildly suggest jihad, but not to connect the local Mosque and trainers to himself, thus buying time for future attacks. This way, he gives encouragement to future recruits of his success, puts a doubt in local authorities about motive, and gives an alibi to others if necessary.

[hellbender]

The other play by killer Cho can be found at:

http://news.aol.com/virginia-tech-shootings/cho-seung-hui/_a/mr-brownstone-title-page/20070417141309990001

What amazes me about his writings is that they don't sound at all like the products of someone his age. Also, he seems to have drawn on the very worst of modern American pop culture: trashy rock lyrics from Guns n Roses, gratuitous but unimaginative and repetitive profanity, etc.

[jveritas]

I heard that when he came to the US in 1992 he lived first in Detroit, and as you know Detroit has a large muslim community in its suburbs in particular in Dearborn. Did he interact with the muslims there? No one knows. The islam angle should not be dismissed.

We should not be surprised if in the next few days or few weeks a muslim terrorist group, including AL Qaeda, may adopt this guy as one of their owns.

[DaGman]

I suggest some good stretching exercises before you reach that far. Helps prevent pulled muscles.

[fooman]

aces. thanx

[matt1234]

there was a second writing. Do we have link to that as well?

You can access 2 plays, Richard McBeef and Mr. Brownstone, here:

http://newsbloggers.aol.com/2007/04/17/cho-seung-huis-plays/

[ChessExpert]

it is odd. AND he does not like Catholics either

??

[lawdude]

“you don’t have a kill ratio of 68% (32 dead, 15 wounded; 32 divided by 47 = 68%) without training..this guy knew what he was doing with a gun..”

From what I have heard he was never farther away from a victim than 10-15 feet. I can hit a target at that distance.

As I pointed out on another thread, had two or even one student waited until he was looking away, charged him while screaming like a banshee, they most likely could have taken the little puke down.

But we have a society of trained cowards who mostly have never held a weapon.

[The_Reader_David]

But what is the likelihood that a Korean immigrant living in the DC metro area and going to school at VA Tech would have any connection with or knowledge of a member of a medical faculty on the Turkish coast of the Black Sea?

Now for a curious coincidence, a search for Ismail Ak also turns up Ismael, A.K., and that on a Korean webpage devoted to Chemical Engineering and biochemical engineering, as one fo the authors of the second listed paper. The first listed paper was the Masters Thesis of one G.H. Cho.

(To see it Google “Ismail Ak” Korea. Which search turns up no connection
between your Turkish psychiatrist and Korea other than papers of his showing up in bibliographies that also cite journals with Korea in their name.)

[lightning]

I’m curious about the length of time he (and his parents) spent as a resident alien. What are the procedures for the immigration laws in connection with that status? Also, how can his parents afford such a prestige college (sister to Princeton) and does a non-citizen have qualify for in-state tuition?

Curious?