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To: gc4nra
There should at least be administrators and/or teachers with the ability to defend themselves and the students. I don’t think that allowing the general student body to be armed is realistic unless considerable safeguards are taken.
3 posted on 04/17/2007 2:59:53 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi
I don’t think that allowing the general student body to be armed is realistic unless considerable safeguards are taken.

There were plenty of ex-military and guard students when I went to randog U. They'd make great deputies, and give them a tuition break for carrying.

8 posted on 04/17/2007 3:07:44 PM PDT by randog (What the...?!)
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To: kinoxi
I don’t think that allowing the general student body to be armed is realistic unless considerable safeguards are taken.

Oh cripes, this worthless argument again.

Here are some questions for you:

(1) Would all students go through the process of getting a permit if they could carry on campus?

(2) Of those students who would, do you think they'd pull their firearm out over an argument? If so, can you provide ONE stinking example of where an 18 to 22 year old permit holder has done that in ANY state with shall issue permit laws?

(3) Many of our troops in Iraq are 18 to 22 years old -- do they have guns?

(4) How long would it take for a bunch of 18 to 22 year old students to kill off 30 people? Hint: More than a couple minutes. In fact, I don't believe that there have been 30 unjustified homocides by permit holders in the entire last 5 years, and that includes at least some 21 and 22 year olds.

(5) What, if anything else whatsoever, could have stopped this madman?

(6) Are there no safeguards in the shall-issue permit process?

OK, chew on that a while and get back to me again with "I don’t think that allowing the general student body to be armed is realistic unless considerable safeguards are taken." Frankly, I consider that statement to be as ####### as the argument that pilots shouldn't be allowed to carry guns because they might go nuts and shoot someone. (Hint: If a pilot goes nuts, him being armed is the LEAST of the passengers' worries.)

14 posted on 04/17/2007 3:17:15 PM PDT by piytar
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To: kinoxi

If someone is able to get a CCW, and they are in college, don’t you think THAT would be OKAY? I doubt most students would pursue it....


30 posted on 04/17/2007 3:36:57 PM PDT by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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To: kinoxi

Conceal and carry are the safe guards. For anyone to obtain that license intensive training is required. On talk radio yesterday a law enforcement officer here in Texas talked of this and what it takes to qualify for that license...you’ll not have a flake carry a concealed hand gun...you’ll have someone who has the ability to take down someone like that shooter.


38 posted on 04/17/2007 3:48:13 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand; but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: kinoxi

Virginia is a “shall issue” state. If you obtain a CCW why shouldn’t you be allowed to carry to carry on campus as well as off?


45 posted on 04/17/2007 4:17:00 PM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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