Posted on 04/17/2007 1:10:00 PM PDT by em2vn
He left his father after he lost hope to convert him to the right path, and directed his efforts towards the people of the town, but they rejected his call and threatened him. By Allah, he said, I shall plot a plan to destroy their idols. He knew that a big celebration was coming soon, where everybody would leave town for a big feast on the riverbank. After making sure that nobody was left in town, Ibrahim went towards the temple armed with an ax. Statues of all shapes and sizes were sitting there adorned with decorations. Plates of food were offered to them, but the food was untouched. "Well, why don't you eat? The food is getting cold." He said to the statues, joking; then with his ax he destroyed all the statues except one, the biggest of them. He hung the ax around its neck and left.
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The Ass-clown picked Holocaust Remembrance day to kill these people. First victim surname Hilscher, Jewish surname, third victim Israeli Professor, seems the rest were just targets of opportunity in a target rich environment.
I haven’t been able to read everything, but I’ve read a considerable amount of the news put forth thus far regarding the slaughter at Virginia Tech, and in not one of the news items that I have read is there any indication that the killer was of the Islamic faith.
As many, I at first thought that would ultimately be found as truth, but so far not.
Have I missed something?
You said — “Let the evidence speak for itself, that is if the authorities and media are willing to let it do so.”
In this particular case, there’s gonna be nothing to speak to, in regards to Islam. I mean, I live within a few miles of a mosque. That must mean there’s “something to speak to” in regards to my connection to that mosque. Or, perhaps I spoke to a Muslim yesterday. That must mean that I’m planning something here in my town.
There are always going to be those kinds of so-called “connections” — knowing someone who is a Muslim, living next to a mosque, having some friends who are Musllim (especially if you live close to a mosque), and so on.
Nope..., this guy was a total nutball case and I don’t think even the Muslims want him...
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said — “Its obvious that the gunshots were signals that he was a muslim.”
That’s as funny as this thread! good one...
Regards,
Star Traveler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim
I general dislike wikipedia but I couldn’t get to my Koran. /s
You said — “Whatever you say Star Man.”
Hey! You weren’t supposed to give my real name. Now they’re gonna connect you with the space aliens.
Regards,
Star Traveler
We know he took creative writing. At most universities, at least 20 years ago, a degree in English meant English/American literature. Prereqs included composition, etc. I don’t think there is a way to major in “English” without it being literature based. Even majoring in Spanish quickly leads to all literature courses.
Thanks, I couldn’t make the connection.
You said — Traditionally, Muslims believe that it was Ishmael rather than Isaac whom Ibrahim was told to sacrifice.
That’s not news to those who know about Islam and the Bible. That’s one of the critical differences and is studied in theological circles, too.
BUT — it has absolutely nothing to do with a nutball, who tries to burn up his dorm room twice, calls in bomb threats to his university, and his girlfriend dumps him (because he’s a real whacko) and he decides to go “Postal” on a bunch of students in classes...
He’s a real nutball. The Islamic terrorists are another threat — sufficient unto themselves... They don’t need our nutballs that we readily produce in this society.
Regards,
Star Traveler
You said “think”. Islamists don’t “think” in any manner familiar to us. I believe this was an Islamist attack.
You said — “Thanks, I couldnt make the connection.”
Well, one basic reason that a lot of people aren’t going to be able to “make the connection” — is simply because one doesn’t exist — at least to the extent that made him shoot up a bunch of students.
He’s a nutball who tried to burn up his room twice, called in bomb threats, his girlfriend dumped him (because, most likely, she didn’t think it was “cool” to be associated with nutballs) — and so he thought he would “show everyone” and went “postal” on a bunch of other students.
Yeah, a real nutball case here...
Regards,
Star Traveler
No. I was focusing on the tattoos that he is reported to have had on his arms.
Given the complaints in the note he left, he could be ROP. There are a few Koreans who buy into this..
You said — “I believe this was an Islamist attack.”
You don’t do very much for the credibility of the real Islamic terrorists, when you go digging around inside of nutball’s heads. The real terrorists are not like this kook of a guy who went postal, because his girlfriend dumped him.
The real terrorists are doing the things that we have seen from 9/11 and onward (plus back in history, too). They are much more credible than this crazy South Korean who thinks he’ll set things straight by shooting up his fellow students.
Dismissing this guy as a nutball has nothing to do with not recognizing what real Islamic terrorism is all about and what they mean to do. When you associate someone like this crazy guy — with real terrorists — all you do is create a “caricature” of Islamic terrorists (in other words a “cartoonish character of Islam) and not the *real thing*.
This guy was not the real thing. There *is* the real thing of Islamic terrorism out there in the world. I would suggest concentrating on the “real” and not the “cartoon character” of a nutball case on a some campus.
Regards,
Star Traveler
Wouldn’t that be Ibrahim’s Axe?
The reporter may have chosen that spelling... Thy most likely just got the info verbally.
WOW! Finally! Somebody that thinks the way I do!........Let's chat!.............
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