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Jihad: The Men and Ideas Behind Al Qaeda (Koran Cho Seung-Hui could he be a recruit?)
PBS/Drudge ^ | April 15, 2007

Posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:48 AM PDT by restornu

Killer's Note: 'You Caused Me to Do This'

What this Koran Cho Seung-Hui said, sounds like he could have been recruited to do the the Jihadist bidding?

There was a documentry on a PBS station Sunday on "Osama Ben Layden" and what was in the suicide note sounds simular as mention in the PBS Doc.

It was reported OBL read a book by Sayyid Qutb

"Qutb was extremely critical of many things in the United States: its racism, materialism, individual freedom, economic system, poor haircuts,[7] triviality, restrictions on divorce, enthusiasm for sports, "animal-like" mixing of the sexes (which went on even in churches),[8] and lack of support for the Palestinian struggle. In an article published in Egypt after his travels, he noted with disapproval the sexuality of Americans:

the American girl is well acquainted with her body's seductive capacity. She knows it lies in the face, and in expressive eyes, and thirsty lips. She knows seductiveness lies in the round breasts, the full buttocks, and in the shapely thighs, sleek legs — and she shows all this and does not hide it. [9] And their taste in music :

In the week-long America at a Crossroads series debuting on PBS April 15, here’s what stayed with Current editors Originally published in Current, April 9, 2007

Jihad: The Men and Ideas Behind Al Qaeda Sunday, April 15, 9 p.m.

The doc’s historical primer introduces Sayyid Qutb, an influential 20th century Egyptian ideologue who called for Islamic revolution; surveys al-Zawahiri’s time in prison; and reports on his and bin Laden’s experiences fighting and recruiting in Afghanistan and the Sudan.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: choseunghui; drudge; jihad; obl; pbs; sayyidqutb
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To: Capt. Tom

You are like Ibrahim! Sacrifice your Ismail. Put the knife to his throat with your hands...Save the throat of the people from being cut-the people are always sacrificed at the doors of palaces of power, and temples of torture. PUT THE BLADE AT YOUR SON’S THROAT SO THAT YOU MAY TAKE THE BLADE FROM THE EXECUTIONER’S HAND! But ... Allah will pay the ransom of your Ismail. You do not kill and do not lose your Ismail. THIS IS TO TEACH YOU THAT YOU SHOULD BE READY TO SACRIFICE YOUR ISMAIL (LOVE) IN YOUR OWN HANDS FOR THE SAKE OF YOUR FAITH!...”


41 posted on 04/17/2007 12:34:48 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: dighton

It makes one wonder if Hillery got her idea for the title of her book... "It Takes A village To Raise A Child?"

FROM Qutb
In general, Qutb's experiences as an Egyptian - his village childhood, professional career, and activism in the Muslim Brotherhood - left an unmistakable mark on his theoretical and religious works.

Even Qutb's early, secular writing shows evidence of his later themes. For example, Qutb's autobiography of his childhood Tifl min al-Qarya (A Child From the Village) makes little mention of Islam or political theory and is typically classified as a secular, literary work.

However, it is replete with references to village mysticism, superstition, the Qur'an, and incidences of injustice. Qutb's later work developed along similar themes, dealing with Qur'anic exegesis, social justice, and political Islam.

42 posted on 04/17/2007 12:58:56 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Jack Black
Ismail Ax

Sort of reminds you of Malcolm X?

43 posted on 04/17/2007 1:03:07 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Capt. Tom

Thus, “Ishmael (Islam) the Ax?”


44 posted on 04/17/2007 1:21:46 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: processing please hold

I must admit, my initial reaction when this news first broke was that it was “sudden jihadi syndrome”...then when they kept saying the guy was Asian, I thought I must have over-reacted...now - some very strange things, Ismail X being a big one.

Also, “gun-free” zone lunacy is ridiculous - if concealed weapons had been allowed, this guy might have been taken out a lot earlier.


45 posted on 04/17/2007 1:24:27 PM PDT by KEmom (Please send viable Republican candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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To: Dixie Yooper

Thanks, I already have a bible - and yes I’ve read it. I just haven’t read Genesis in quite a long while, and forgot about that particular passage. It really does describe the muslims to a ‘t’. I’ve just hadn’t looked at it in the context of these days in which we are living.

So, again, I say “Oh my gosh!”.


46 posted on 04/17/2007 2:02:20 PM PDT by sneakers
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To: Rutles4Ever
We have to see his note and get what was actually written.

It's odd that a person who would have a name that is hard to pronounce by Americans, would use a Muslim name in it's place.

Remember the opeining lines of Moby Dick:
"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, ... -

It is not like he used Ishmael which is a Jewish , Christian spelling he used Ismail which is a Muslim spelling.

Might not be anything to it,but it should be checked out.

47 posted on 04/17/2007 2:03:59 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: restornu
Several minor mistakes in Richard McBeef. Certainly, he was not up to par for an English major, I would think. It seems rather surprising that he would be sailing toward his degree. OTOH, perhaps feedback of such failings only tightened the screws he felt upon himself.

His short play shows very shallow understanding of relationships, time, and what people would actually say to one another (in a real world?). His writing is quite, quite disturbed, but we have real proof that now, don't we?

HF

48 posted on 04/17/2007 4:05:29 PM PDT by holden
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To: Capt. Tom; mkjessup; glorgau; aculeus; Senator Bedfellow; Billthedrill; Larry Lucido; ...
Remember the opeining lines of Moby Dick:

"Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, ...

Opening line of The Vale of Laughter by Peter De Vries:

"Call me, Ishmael. Feel absolutely free to call me any hour of the day or night at the office or at home . . ."

49 posted on 04/17/2007 4:09:27 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: holden

It seem Smoking Gun did not share with us Cho other writings that were about I think negativity against his profesors an another groups!


50 posted on 04/17/2007 4:13:07 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: Dixie Yooper; sneakers
Fixed your typo:

If you didn't already know about this, Have I got a great book Good Book for you to read!

51 posted on 04/17/2007 4:15:10 PM PDT by null and void (To Marines, male bonding happens in Boot Camp, to Democrats, it happens at a Gay Pride parade...)
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To: aculeus

Strange Cho didn’t say call me Ishmael he said call me Ismail. - tom


52 posted on 04/17/2007 4:19:35 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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To: restornu
Ismail Ax Sort of reminds you of Malcolm X?

Certainy does.... I keep thinking it is One of his online games name like WOW or others
53 posted on 04/17/2007 4:22:31 PM PDT by LynnHam
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To: restornu
Posters on other threads have said that the "ISMAIL AX" may actually be "ISMAIL AK".

Following that line of thought I came up with these:

In August 2003, CAIR's former civil-rights coordinator, Randall "Ismail" Royer, was arrested on charges of possessing "in his automobile an AK-47-style rifle and 219 rounds of ammunition"

Portrait of a Wahhabi: My encounters with Randall Royer…and the “usual suspects.”

Senior CAIR employee Randall Todd Royer, a/k/a “Ismail” Royer (“Royer”), pled guilty and was sentenced to twenty years in prison for participating in a network of militant jihadists centered in Northern Virginia.

This Royer was operating in N. Virginia. Could it be that our VT shooter was affiliated with local jihadists and idolized "Ismail" Royer?

As Spock would say: "Fascinating".

54 posted on 04/17/2007 5:05:26 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: LynnHam

Wow! Never heard of it!:)

55 posted on 04/17/2007 5:14:09 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: FReepaholic

This is strange “Royer” is a French Name!


56 posted on 04/17/2007 5:15:28 PM PDT by restornu (I know that thou art redeemed, because of the righteousness of thy Redeemer; 2 Ne 2:3)
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To: LynnHam
Ismail Ax Sort of reminds you of Malcolm X? Certainy does.... I keep thinking it is One of his online games name like WOW or others

Interesting ? ttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819538/posts?q=1&;page=499
57 posted on 04/18/2007 5:11:32 PM PDT by LynnHam
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