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Ishmael's Axe
http://external.oneonta.edu/cooper/articles/suny/2001suny-pikus.html ^

Posted on 04/17/2007 11:25:47 AM PDT by TexasBud

One possible source of the gunman's reference to "Ismail Ax" on inside of his arm is... James Fenimore Cooper's The Prairie. Character Ishmael Bush had an axe. "And the axe, which created and transformed through destruction, clears the figurative way for the deflowering of the New World."

The axe is apparently both literal and symbolic, and references are made about the character's having moved from the east to the west, creating change through the destruction (using the axe), and the like. Just a possibility, esp. for someone who was an English major?


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To: Wild_nut

Today it’s reported that his family lived in Saudi Arabia for 10 years working and saving enough to come to the US and start their laundry business. You think in that 10 years this guy was indoctrinated into some Nut Case Arab Group? Ishmael’s Axe.


221 posted on 04/19/2007 3:28:43 PM PDT by Wild_nut (Ishmael Axe)
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To: All
Hi All - THIS is what was sent to me via FReepmail, by 1withall...

"That’s because Fox runned by folks that LOOVE the Bush government. And behind his government are alot Jewish folks and Jewish folks don’t like Muslim people. Simple.Right Bush is Terrorizing Islam. So for Fox News this is Fuel for the ones that hate Islamic views or people.

thnx"

My response:

Well, guess what. I pretty much LOOOOVE the Bush government, and AMERICA, and God (NOT Allah), and I think the terrorists should be met with the ULTIMATE FORCE, and we should have taken the gloves off years ago and NOT made our FANTASTIC MILITARY fight with one hand tied behind their backs, because militant Islam is HORRIBLE and should be WIPED OFF THE FACE OF THIS EARTH, so that Peace can reign, and tyrants can be banished to he11, where they belong!

Only Goodness Shall Reign - Love is Light - Peace Through STRENGTH

You're Welcome

223 posted on 04/20/2007 8:05:58 AM PDT by NordP (I know why Hollywood is concerned about global warming...heat destroys plastic. (Thanks Ann!))
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To: 1withall; NordP; Admin Moderator
Begone TROLL!!


224 posted on 04/20/2007 8:22:51 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: NordP
Report that freepmail to the Lead Moderator, Nord.

This is a signed on today troll.

225 posted on 04/20/2007 8:23:54 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan

Nice Troll Zappin' Sir/oWf!

226 posted on 04/20/2007 8:30:11 AM PDT by NordP (I know why Hollywood is concerned about global warming...heat destroys plastic. (Thanks Ann!))
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To: NordP; ohioWfan; Admin Moderator; Jim Robinson

Good! That troll needed zotted and disappeared. He’s advocating for the violence and retribution for his fantasy resentments; but, for all we know, he could be an actual dangerous individual.

Are the Mods keeping a record of subversive poster retreads?


227 posted on 04/20/2007 8:39:51 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE; NordP
This one's freep to Nord is particularly disturbing.

I imagine there's a process in place to report that kind of freepmail to the proper authorities in addition to investigating if he's a retread.

There are clearly dangerous people who try to break in to FR. This seems to be one of them.

228 posted on 04/20/2007 8:55:34 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PRAY for our President and our troops. NOW more than ever!!.)
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To: ohioWfan; STARWISE

Took your advice, oWf. We’ll see how FR handles it. Thanks!


229 posted on 04/20/2007 8:56:59 AM PDT by NordP (I know why Hollywood is concerned about global warming...heat destroys plastic. (Thanks Ann!))
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To: NordP; ohioWfan; Grampa Dave; popdonnelly; Syncro; Brad's Gramma; Phsstpok; Alas Babylon!; ...

Long article, and overlooking some anti-Bush sentiment, the restatement of what we’ve known for a long time is happening just beneath the radar in mosques is still so disturbing. I guess I’m relieved someone is looking into this, because someone needs to, but it’s still terrifying.

I haven’t heard of this organization or their credibility. I don’t know if they’re whackjobs or not, but:

the next president, whomever it is, will have to walk that line between PC diplomacy and our essential security, and be primed and armed to take a firm stand in what may well be an increase in this type of horror and frightening insecurity in our daily lives. Merciful God, help us.

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About the VT Massacre:

http://www.saneworks.us/The-Virginia-Tech-Massacre-Immigration-the-Peace-Process-and-Treason-article-436-3.htm

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http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/24411.html

I have already written of a real threat in this country that is now fermenting in the many Islamic cells operating Stateside.

These Muslims are now recruiting suicide murderers to carry out a grand attack against several elementary schools, either directly on the buildings, or by hijacking a school bus, or even by infiltrating a school bus transportation company and kidnapping the school children on many dozen buses at one time. Anyone who doubts my intelligence can ask the Israelis or the Russians if the Muslims are capable of this kind of planned atrocity.

I pray, and yes as an American Christian I pray, we will not arrive at work one day to hear all of the news reports of such a tragedy unfolding only to hear an FBI spokesman tell us that there is absolutely no evidence that the kidnappings or murders were the result of a planned terrorist assault. But make no mistake about it.

We have a real problem in this country and it is the fear of saying what we know to be true. Islam and Islamic law is the evil ideology of our day seeking our destruction and it is the Muslim, either as the Shari’a faithful or the potential Shari’a faithful who represent the army of enemy combatants we will face on any given day.

You know the problem we face when you hear the FBI official testify before Congress that there is a real problem with Muslim recruitment among “minority” (translated: African American) incarcerated felons but he begins his testimony with a statement which denies the very reality he is seeking to explain.

A case in point would be the statement by Donald Van Duyn, Deputy Assistant Director, Counterterrorism Division Federal Bureau of Investigation, before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and Related Agencies on September 19, 2006: “Before I begin, I would like to emphasize that Islam itself is not the problem but rather how Islam is used by violent extremists to inspire and justify their actions.”

Has this deputy assistant director of counter-terrorism ever studied Islamic law and the ideology of Jihad?

Has he visited the mosques and day schools right here in this country while undercover when Arabic is being spoken and not some white-washed English version of Islam for public consumption?

Either he knows nothing of Islam and the terror threat we face or he is a liar. It boils down to that.

But those of us at the Society of Americans for National Existence (SANE)

http://www.saneworks.us/

will simply not tolerate this kind of fatal incompetence or intentional ignorance. This is why we have already begun to implement our project Mapping Shari’a in America.

http://www.mappingsharia.us/

If you wish to learn more about it, we have dedicated an entire web site to this program to provide the public who wish to support our work with information and the opportunity to come on board and join the effort. Our work product will be available to the public and we will develop a specialized version for law enforcement agencies. But the answer does not lie with the federal government or even with the local police.

The answer and the response to this threat depends on public awareness and response. When we learn that there is a mosque around the corner preaching Jihad every Friday in Arabic to the faithful, we need to know and we need to respond like we would if we learned that a known pedophile had moved into an apartment building next door to an elementary school.

With the Mapping Shari’a in America project, ignorance will no longer be a valid excuse for inaction. After 9-11, apathy is no longer an option.

This is more than a non-profit public service project. This is an effort to preserve the future of our nation and of our children.


230 posted on 04/20/2007 9:34:35 AM PDT by STARWISE (They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL author)
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To: STARWISE

bookmark for later


231 posted on 04/20/2007 9:55:17 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet & FredFan)
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To: STARWISE

WOW, Star... will certainly be praying. Thanks for the *PING*


232 posted on 04/20/2007 10:44:23 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (The word "Conservative" needs no modifier!)
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To: TexasBud

Yeah, I posted this after the news came out re: forearm, along with other literary references... since he was an English Major. I wanted to cover all bases... even the Korean video base.


233 posted on 04/20/2007 11:52:19 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray for Tony Snow, Liz Edwards, cancer patients, their families and support.)
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