Posted on 04/17/2007 6:39:31 AM PDT by starlifter
Va. Tech Gunman Named
By Michael Shear and Debbi Wilgoren Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, April 17, 2007; 9:36 AM
Virginia Tech officials today identified the Virginia Tech student who killed 32 people and then himself on the Blacksburg campus yesterday as 23-year-old Cho Seung-Hui of Centreville.
Cho was a South Korean native who had immigrated to this country, the university announced on its Web site this morning. He was a senior majoring in English, and lived in a dorm on campus, officials said.
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Hogwash. If you have normal hand-eye coordination, and give me 30 minutes, I can have you shooting a handgun very effectively at normal handgun range (15yards give or take). You won't be an expert but you'll be good enough.
Columbine was almost purely psychopathy. Ideology is twisted into some catalyzing motivator, I would agree, but generally its twisted so far out of alignment with the orthodoxy of the ideology as to be almost absurd.
The exception, of course, is Islam. There’s plenty of orthodoxy to justify bloodshed in the Quran.
if he is indeed a “resident alien”, then he can buy that gun legally. but that’s a bad law, there need to be other conditions tied to it.
Cubicle bound, in a meeting, and basically monitoring ‘My Comments’ thread.
Sorry about that :-)
I agree that the president of VT will take the fall for this, rightly or wrongly. We are dealing with an emotional issue and logic will take a back seat.
I know that the Nancy Graces and Gretas of the world will wonder why the students weren't warned about the initial shooting and I admit on first blush it sounds bad, but what would that have accomplished?
The first place that most people would have gone for safety was to the opposite side of campus which is precisely where the shooter ended up.
<< If he was an English major, any chance there’s a hint in “Moby Dick”? (”Call me Ishmael”) >>
I’ll be happy to speculate on that one! Here goes:
“Ismail Ax” is actually a combination of Arabic, for “Ishmael” and Ebonics, for “Ask.”
Furthermore, since Arabic is a right-to-left language (as opposed to, for example, English, which is left-to-right), the proper word order is right-to-left, hence we should read that as:
“Ask Ishmael”
Ask Ishmael? In other words, we should learn what it is that Ishmael knows!
What does Ishmael know? Ishmael is the only observer who knew everything from the beginning to the end - what Ahab was seeking, what the Pequod represents, and what the significance of the white whale itself was.
Therefore, as the only one who knew everything, Ishmael is the only person who is in a position to pass judgment, and who also has the right to execute that judgment.
To Ishmael, the white whale obviously represents white civilization, i.e., Western civilization. It is depicted as a whale because it is so large that it crowds out and oppresses everything else: asians, muslims, people of color, womyn, homosexuals, and losers who stalk coeds.
Ahab, of course, is alliterative of A-rab, or Arab, and his quest to kill the white whale therefore obviously represents al-Qaeda trying to destroy the West.
But Ahab can’t succeed alone - he needs Ishmael to stop being an observer, and become a participant, in order to succeed.
The Pequod represents the physical bodies of Ahab and Ishmael and others on a quest to destroy the white whale - which, in the process, will in itself be destroyed, just as the martyr destroys his own body in the course of jihad, but nevertheless achieves his ultimate goal.
And therefore, in order to kill the white whale (Western civilization and its injustices), Ishmael (Cho) must kill the girl he is stalking, her RA and a bunch of people in an Engineering classroom building.
There. Makes perfect sense, yes?
I have no idea. My guess is he was the gunseller—how else would he have had all of that detailed info before it was released? He said he had just been visited by ATF officers, then proceeded to give all sorts of info (that has subsequently been released) to the news.
A lock down and evacuating the campus are two different things. If the classes were canceled, then the students wouldn't even be in a classroom to be "locked down".
How many isolated shootings turn into mass shootings a mile or two away? This one, unfortunately, did but it is very rare.
Do you think that the police lock down populations of 26,000 after every shooting? In most cases, not even the house next door is locked down.
Fox news reported that the bomb threats sem to be related to this shooting..one of the bomb threat notes was next to shooters body(or something)..
the first time I saw the name “Cho” was in those posts vis-a-vis the gun seller. I forgot who was the first person to find and post that. But they had to be legitimate.
No thread started for the convocation? A rousing applause for the president of VA Tech!
Moving!!
Polly
I was just wandering the same thing. Please ping me if you find one.
Liberals. We should cut down on them. And gun laws. Let the good guys remain armed and the bad guys will no longer have free reign.
I am not used to starting threads but maybe I can try!
Polly
The gun shop was in Roanoak VA (sp?), I followed a link last night from the guys profile (sharpshooter).
it was this one..
http://www.roanokefirearms.com/
delete this if this is out of line, I’m pretty much confused on what is and isn’t acceptable at this point.
I might have believed it was a grand conspiracy by law enforcement to scrub the internet, but sharpshooter’s posts were copied elsewhere and are still online (although the websites seem bogged down).
http://www.nickqueen.com/?p=248
I’m still curious as to why FR deleted them, though. The guy’s full name was not posted and it isn’t like someone was libeled in any way.
Let’s think this out for a second. At 7:15 a shooting occurs in a VT dorm. Only two people are shot and the shooter left on his own and was not running from police. There were plenty of additional targets at the dorm yet the shooter moved on. This gives every indication that the shooting was isolated and not a prelude to mass murder.
In every city in America, if a shooting occurs in one apartment the entire neighborhood is not locked down. This is especially true when the shooter left on his own and was not actively fleeing the police.
Also, it’s not even clear if the police had even a description of the guy after the first shooting. They did lock down the dorm and the immediate area however.
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