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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, there’s more questions than just that. Like:

1. Why the two-hour gap?
2. What’s site #2 got to do with site #1, if jealousy is the motive?
3. Why weren’t cops everywhere on campus after the first episode?

Anyone?


14 posted on 04/16/2007 8:17:33 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: canuck_conservative

Consider this: the perp showed up to have her accompany him to the place he intended to slaughter so many but she refused and he killed her there to prevent her revealing things about him once the killing was done. This guy could be a terrorist who wanted his identity to remain in a fog until his handlers could evealuate the episode for future planning.


21 posted on 04/16/2007 8:27:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (You've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: canuck_conservative
3. Why weren’t cops everywhere on campus after the first episode?

It is my understanding that the VT campus is huge and spread out.

27 posted on 04/16/2007 8:30:59 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: canuck_conservative

2 hour gap... planned.


35 posted on 04/16/2007 8:36:42 PM PDT by Porterville (All hail the Prophet Gore, an ass dressed in a lion's skin)
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To: canuck_conservative
>>"Well, there’s more questions than just that. Like:

1. Why the two-hour gap?

2. What’s site #2 got to do with site #1, if jealousy is the motive?

3. Why weren’t cops everywhere on campus after the first episode?

Anyone?"<<

Assume the worst.

This initial security and subsequent probe has been ugly, sloppy and too secretive, so expect the investigation to be the same.

58 posted on 04/16/2007 8:54:01 PM PDT by Carbon Footprint
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To: canuck_conservative
From what I understand, cops were everywhere, but they thought the shooter had left campus—or maybe even the state. I know that sounds REALLY stupid, but that is the exact reason the campus chief and the university president gave—incredibly, unbelievably.

The 2 hour gap? I don’t think anyone knows.

It is possible the shooter, or his now deceased girlfriend, had been engineering students. I think the “mental defective” just decided to take his “mad” out on a whole bunch of innocent people. Something “defectives” are wont to do.

71 posted on 04/16/2007 9:03:50 PM PDT by singfreedom ("Victory at all costs,.......for without victory there is no survival."--Churchill--that's "Winston")
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To: canuck_conservative

You asked a few questions. I can pose a possible scenario based upon a “whacked out” lover and his girlfriend. Don’t know if that’s true or not, yet — but it’s one definite possibility.

So, your first question —”Why the two-hour gap?”

Well, if we take this scenario I just suggested, then he would not have gone there in the first place to kill her and everyone else, but got “whacked in the head” as a result of a heated argument with her, in which the RA had to come and intervene and mediate. The guy could have been some kind of gun buff before and he could have been in the practice of carrying anyway. So, to pull it out and shoot them, could be a possibility.

So, the two-hour gap happens because he’s “whacked”, he just shot two people and he’s thinking he wants to go and “show them” and shoot up a bunch of other people (however the twisted mind thinks...). And so, he goes back home where he gathers his pre-existing collection of guns and ammo (now that’s an interesting question; why does he have all that?).

And he comes back, ready to do damage now, to fulfill his rage...

Next question — “What’s site #2 got to do with site #1, if jealousy is the motive?”

Well, jealousy is no longer the operative word. “Crazy” becomes the operative word. It’s just “kill some people” to make a statement and to “show the world”. It happens with these other group killings that we seen over the years.

Site #2 relates to Site #1 in that it’s on the other side of campus. Maybe he’s crazy, but he still wants to “carry it off” and he knows if he goes back to that side of campus, he’s liable to be identified quickly and/or he’ll run into the police. So, he carries out his “rampage” away from where he did the first deed, in order to be able to carry it off.

Or — as an alternative scenario to this one particular fact of “location” — he goes over there, because he’s found out that the new boyfriend is somewhere over in that building. And he’s going to shoot people until he finds him.

Last question — “Why weren’t cops everywhere on campus after the first episode?”

Well, that one was answered by the cops, themselves (although some think it’s pretty lame). They looked at it as a simple domestic dispute and issue. So, they locked down that particular building but not the rest of the campus. And, also in light of the fact that they had already had several bomb threats (which apparently did nothing but disrupt everyone), they probably didn’t want to have a kind of campus-wide disruption.

Okay, that’s a “scenario”. AND that’s all it is, because we do not have enough information to do any more than simply *speculate* and *guess* right now.

So, if anyone else want to “guess up a storm” — go right ahead, because that’s all you’ll be doing, just like me...

Regards,
Star Traveler


78 posted on 04/16/2007 9:11:43 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: canuck_conservative

I have absolutley no proof of this, but I think they will eventually find this was a terrible, unimagined coincidence and that the two are not related. The initial reports on the first shooting was that the shooter was an older white man in a black pickup with farm plates, probably not all that uncommon in rural VA.

The second shooter is being indentified as a Chinese national here 8 month on a student visa who just happened to be able to buy two guns, extra clips, a lot of ammo and possibly a flak vest.

It is very hard to understand the 2 hour gap between the attacks, the obvious premeditation and the seeming professionalism of the second attack unless you look at them as two separate incidents.

Just my opinion, but you asked.


126 posted on 04/16/2007 9:48:44 PM PDT by redangus
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To: canuck_conservative
Yes, easy one. Site #1 is a contrived killing. Guy goes into dorm, busts into room of a person who might be able to identify him (and/or sound the alarm), makes a lot of noise, leads those around him to think it's a domestic argument, etc. Then, when "authority is called" (The RA) he kills the girl and the RA.

I believe the other individual then in the woman's room is the "person of interest" the cops have referred to.

All of this is a distraction for the purpose of drawing in the campus security force AND the local cops who deal with such things.

Guy then slips out, acquires the rest of his weapons, his chains, his battle fan and so forth and slips across campus to a classroom building, that is Site #2.

He simply waits for off-campus students to arrive, chains the doors shut and starts killing people on the second floor (where it is harder for his victims to escape). He must have already known that the university had not devised a system for informing off-campus students of disturbances on-campus, nor did they put out guards at the main entrances to turn them back until the problem was clear.

It's the old "distraction trick" ~ the idea is to draw off the authorities to a minor event while you pull off the big event elsewhere.

168 posted on 04/17/2007 3:53:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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