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McCain Backs Gun Rights After (VA Tech) Shootings
Breitbart ^ | April 16, 2007 | Elizabeth White

Posted on 04/16/2007 6:56:18 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

LAREDO, Texas (AP) - Sen. John McCain says the shooting rampage at Virginia Tech does not change his view that the Constitution guarantees everyone the right to carry a weapon.

"We have to look at what happened here, but it doesn't change my views on the Second Amendment, except to make sure that these kinds of weapons don't fall into the hands of bad people," McCain said Monday in response to a question.

The Arizona Republican, who was campaigning in this Texas-Mexico border city, said he didn't know the details of the attacks at Virginia Tech.

"I do believe in the constitutional right that everyone has, in the Second Amendment to the Constitution, to carry a weapon," he said. "Obviously we have to keep guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens."

McCain and other presidential hopefuls issued statements expressing shock and grief over the attacks.

"As a parent, I am filled with sorrow for the mothers and fathers and loved ones struggling with the sudden, unbearable news of a lost son or daughter, friend or family member," read a statement by Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a Republican, called it a "day of national tragedy, when we lost some of our finest to a senseless act."

Democratic candidate John Edwards said in a statement: "We are simply heartbroken by the deaths and injuries suffered at Virginia Tech. We know what an unspeakable, life-changing moment this is for these families and how, in this moment, it is hard to feel anything but overwhelming grief, much less the love and support around you. But the love and support is there."

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Well, at least he's not so crazy that he completely rejects the GOP base...
1 posted on 04/16/2007 6:56:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Everything always "falls into the hands of the wrong people." Politicians are such idiots. If there is a desire for something, there will be a black market for it. Gun rights make sure the playing field is level and that good people can defend themselves.

"Attila, meet your elected representative. What tribute would you like to extract today?" -- Me.
2 posted on 04/16/2007 6:59:34 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In a month from now he’ll say the opposite.

McPain tells people what he thinks they want to believe.


3 posted on 04/16/2007 6:59:38 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The left looks at Americans and sees 300 million potential criminals and terrorists.

We look at ourselves and see 300 million potential deputies.

Neither is perfectly accurate but our veiw is far, far closer to the truth.

4 posted on 04/16/2007 7:02:22 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There will be an outcry to outlaw all weapons - actually the real response is that all students and citizens should carry weapons - he would have killed several but would have been killed before he killed 32. We do not know who this cat is but if the students had weapons, he would have killed less. Yes, some stupid person would have killed someone just because he a gun, but he would probably been killed long bewfore. An armed society is a defended society...


5 posted on 04/16/2007 7:02:31 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I don’t like mclame, but contrast this statement with that of the hildebeast.

LLS

6 posted on 04/16/2007 7:03:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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"Well, at least he's not so crazy that he completely rejects the GOP base..."

Today, at least.

7 posted on 04/16/2007 7:04:26 PM PDT by Redbob
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"...if the students had weapons, he would have killed less."

Those killed would have been no less dead if some had been armed.

He might, however, have killed fewer.

8 posted on 04/16/2007 7:07:11 PM PDT by Redbob
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll be danged. I am actually surprised, considering the pandering we will see in the next few days and weeks.


9 posted on 04/16/2007 7:07:11 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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Sen. John McCain says the shooting rampage at Virginia Tech does not change his view that the Constitution guarantees everyone the right to carry a weapon.

When you're running for President, you have to change your evil ways, don't ya, Johnny boy? LOL! Whoda thunkit. ;o)

10 posted on 04/16/2007 7:10:39 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: Tribune7
“we lost some of our finest to a senseless act.”

Yes we did! We did also on 911; now many on the left state we deserved it! In the aftermath of this tragedy, the left will work to take my gun away, but yet, when it comes to 911, they just try to mollify radical islamists. Why their double standard? Do they have a hidden agenda?

My solution: People should be allowed to bear arms so that they can protect themselves. The college demanded those poor children be good little victims by refusing to allow any to be armed. If my family ever comes under attack, I want them to have with them the means to fight back!

We have to get rid of this leftest plague that afflicts our society and deprives us of our Constitutional rights!!

11 posted on 04/16/2007 7:11:02 PM PDT by raftguide
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nah....He’s just smart enough to realize that the GOP base has almost completely rejected him.


12 posted on 04/16/2007 7:12:22 PM PDT by rottndog (Fred Thompson will mop the floor with all the other Republican nominees.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

McCian already came out in support of another AWB and stronger licensing requirements. F*ck him... I don’t believe a word out of his mouth.


13 posted on 04/16/2007 7:13:17 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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"...except to make sure that these kinds of weapons don't fall into the hands of bad people," McCain said Monday in response to a question."

Guns don't "fall" into the hands of bad people. Bad people get the guns. How would McCain determine who the bad people are ahead of time? Why doesn't McCain address the fact that the students at V-Tech are denied their constitutionally protected right to have their own guns to defend themselves against bad people with guns?

14 posted on 04/16/2007 7:13:36 PM PDT by Nephi (Open borders is the flip side of the free trade coin. It's time for Protectionism.)
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To: Redbob

Agreed.

The headline could have said, “Three killed at VT - gunman shot by student”


15 posted on 04/16/2007 7:13:45 PM PDT by uptoolate (If it sounds absurd, 51% chance it was sarcasm.)
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To: MarkT

Some thoughts on the Virginia Tech tragedy.

We are at war, both abroad and AT HOME, with an enemy who has sworn to kill as many of us as possible. This enemy DOES NOT recognize conventional rules of war such as the Geneva Convention. They do not wear recognizable uniforms. This enemy DOES NOT distinguish between military and civilian targets. At present civilian targets in the United States are NOT ARMED and have very little means by which to counter an attack. And because civilian targets are NOT armed, they are a softer, easier, less dangerous target than a heavily armed soldier. For that reason, this enemy PREFERS civilian targets.

As of this writing, we have yet to learn whether the deaths of 32 Americans at Virginia Tech was the work of a disgruntled, deranged student or former university employee.

It’s entirely possible that this killer was, in fact, a member of some radical muslin sect who took it upon himself to conduct what is now being called “instant jihad” against a very soft target, obeying the utterances of one of the more radical Muslim mullahs and randomly killing as many Americans as possible. At least one Muslim cleric has specifically called for the killing of our children. Given the PC environment in this country – which is at its zenith on college campuses – we may NEVER learn that fact from the authorities in charge of this investigation AND IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE THE DEFENSELESS VICTIMS ARE JUST AS DEAD!

Israel has been at war with these folks for more than half a century. The Israelis know that it is NOT possible to have enough police out there to protect their civilian population. For that reason, it is common to see Israeli citizens – admittedly former military (as most Israelis are) going about their daily lives – with an Uzi slung under their arm! Most Israeli citizens carry smaller weapons not so easily seen. Because they ARE at war, they are an ARMED society. Yes, they ARE attacked. But –with the exception of suicide bombers — the attackers know that they will either be killed BEFORE the body count mounts or will certainly die before fleeing the scene.

The Israelis REFUSE to live as prisoners. Many of them had experienced that in Europe. They KNEW what they had to do and did it: THEY GRASPED THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WHEN IT CAME TO IMMEDIATE PERSONAL SECURITY, A CITIZEN IS ON HIS OWN AND ALLOW THEIR CITIZENS THE GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!

Any guesses when American “authorities” will begin to connect the dots? Can you say “never?” Without SERIOUS public pressure on these “authorities,” we will continue to die needlessly while waiting for the SWAT boys to show up.

What amazes me is that more of this sort of thing hasn’t happened in OTHER soft targets like public and private schools, shopping malls, theaters, sports bars (most states currently prohibit even CCW permit holders from carrying in bars), restaurants, etc.

The enemy is NOT stupid. This is just the beginning.
And if you think you and yours will NOT be in the cross-hairs, think again.


16 posted on 04/16/2007 7:20:53 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: MarkT

Some thoughts on the Virginia Tech tragedy.

We are at war, both abroad and AT HOME, with an enemy who has sworn to kill as many of us as possible. This enemy DOES NOT recognize conventional rules of war such as the Geneva Convention. They do not wear recognizable uniforms. This enemy DOES NOT distinguish between military and civilian targets. At present civilian targets in the United States are NOT ARMED and have very little means by which to counter an attack. And because civilian targets are NOT armed, they are a softer, easier, less dangerous target than a heavily armed soldier. For that reason, this enemy PREFERS civilian targets.

As of this writing, we have yet to learn whether the deaths of 32 Americans at Virginia Tech was the work of a disgruntled, deranged student or former university employee.

It’s entirely possible that this killer was, in fact, a member of some radical muslin sect who took it upon himself to conduct what is now being called “instant jihad” against a very soft target, obeying the utterances of one of the more radical Muslim mullahs and randomly killing as many Americans as possible. At least one Muslim cleric has specifically called for the killing of our children. Given the PC environment in this country – which is at its zenith on college campuses – we may NEVER learn that fact from the authorities in charge of this investigation AND IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE THE DEFENSELESS VICTIMS ARE JUST AS DEAD!

Israel has been at war with these folks for more than half a century. The Israelis know that it is NOT possible to have enough police out there to protect their civilian population. For that reason, it is common to see Israeli citizens – admittedly former military (as most Israelis are) going about their daily lives – with an Uzi slung under their arm! Most Israeli citizens carry smaller weapons not so easily seen. Because they ARE at war, they are an ARMED society. Yes, they ARE attacked. But –with the exception of suicide bombers — the attackers know that they will either be killed BEFORE the body count mounts or will certainly die before fleeing the scene.

The Israelis REFUSE to live as prisoners. Many of them had experienced that in Europe. They KNEW what they had to do and did it: THEY GRASPED THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WHEN IT CAME TO IMMEDIATE PERSONAL SECURITY, A CITIZEN IS ON HIS OWN AND ALLOW THEIR CITIZENS THE GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!

Any guesses when American “authorities” will begin to connect the dots? Can you say “never?” Without SERIOUS public pressure on these “authorities,” we will continue to die needlessly while waiting for the SWAT boys to show up.

What amazes me is that more of this sort of thing hasn’t happened in OTHER soft targets like public and private schools, shopping malls, theaters, sports bars (most states currently prohibit even CCW permit holders from carrying in bars), restaurants, etc.

The enemy is NOT stupid. This is just the beginning.
And if you think you and yours will NOT be in the cross-hairs, think again.


17 posted on 04/16/2007 7:20:54 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Tribune7

Great comment.


18 posted on 04/16/2007 7:21:03 PM PDT by Pharmboy ([She turned me into a] Newt! in '08)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
GOA On John McCain's Record

Take, for instance, his record on gun rights and political speech affecting Second Amendment activists. Abysmal, wretched, and pathetic are words that come to mind.

GOA Ratings For John McCain

2000 C--

2002 C--

2004 F--

2006 F--

19 posted on 04/16/2007 7:27:34 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. “Finger-In-The_Wind” strikes again.


20 posted on 04/16/2007 7:30:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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