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Virginia Shooting Press Conference Live Thread (I.D. of Shooter not yet disclosed....why?)

Posted on 04/16/2007 4:58:16 PM PDT by Partisan Hack

Person of interest in first shooting not yet interviewed.

Shooter in second massacre shot himself in the face.

All Virginia schools closed tomorrow.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: virginatech
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To: Cicero
This doesn’t sound like anger or jealousy, this sounds like some sort of deliberate, ideological mass murder.

Exactly - going even further than that - IMO the shooting victims in the dorm may have been chosen entirely at random to create a diversion from the shooter's real target. Possible he used different weapons for each crime scene to throw further confusion into the mix.

141 posted on 04/16/2007 5:56:16 PM PDT by randita
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To: bnelson44

I may be wrong but I thought the Student Visa is a non-immigrant visa.

Since 1998 it is illegal for a person on a non-immigrant visa to own a gun.


142 posted on 04/16/2007 5:57:30 PM PDT by BRITinUSA
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To: padre35
Dubious that this is the guy....he has stuff posted from prior to August of 2006, which is apparently when the shooter arrived on a flight from Shanghai.

This guy...the website guy...certainly has some disturbing stuff on his site which he may regret...or may not. But I doubt they are the same guys.

143 posted on 04/16/2007 6:01:21 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: Dallas59
Gang Lu - Chinese national physics student; shot 5 people dead in 1991 at the University of Iowa Physics department, then killed himself, over bad grades he had received.
144 posted on 04/16/2007 6:03:11 PM PDT by hawkeye101 (Liberalism IS a mental disorder. It can only be cured by large doses of common sense and the truth.)
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They don't even fingerprint people coming in on visas?
145 posted on 04/16/2007 6:03:36 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Partisan Hack
"All Virginia schools closed tomorrow."

Really? ALL schools?

146 posted on 04/16/2007 6:07:58 PM PDT by KoRn (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: randita
The deliberate chaining of the doors to Norris Hall leads one to conclude that the shooter had this well choreographed to achieve maximum surprise and maximum damage.

It's entirely possible that chaining doors was a precautionary measure to lock out a shooter ... campuses routinely have practice scenarios that deal with this type of situation. Columbine, and more recently, the campus killings in Montreal (this past year) have put colleges on alert.
If the other buildings on campus didn't follow a similar lock down procedure then your comment may have validity.

147 posted on 04/16/2007 6:08:28 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: randita
The deliberate chaining of the doors to Norris Hall leads one to conclude that the shooter had this well choreographed to achieve maximum surprise and maximum damage.

It's entirely possible that chaining doors was a precautionary measure to lock out a shooter ... campuses routinely have practice scenarios that deal with this type of situation. Columbine, and more recently, the campus killings in Montreal (this past year) have put colleges on alert.
If the other buildings on campus didn't follow a similar lock down procedure then your comment may have validity.

148 posted on 04/16/2007 6:08:39 PM PDT by BluH2o
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To: irish guard

That and the fact that this man owned nice firearms including easily concealed H&K rifles, and then uses two pistols (allegedly).

Who knows at this point, maybe someone just cruised .VT webpages and came across this man and his firearms.

There is a morbidity about his writings, but that doesn’t mean that he popped his own corked after murdering 33 people.

The Police are keeping quiet for a reason, whatever the reason, it certainly shut them up completely, they will not even give a physical description of the dead killer.


149 posted on 04/16/2007 6:10:35 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: padre35; irish guard
Question

If the guy on the web page is indeed the shooter, why did he use a .22 and a 9mm instead of some of the heavier hardware? That HK has a folding stock and would easily fit into a book bag. Why not the Taurus instead of the .22?

I'm NOT referring to the Nagants. That would have been the weapon of choice for long range provided they were properly maintained and had a good scope.

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150 posted on 04/16/2007 6:13:51 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: bnelson44
Thank you.

Police believe three bomb threats on the campus last week may have been attempts by the man to test the campus’ security response, the source said

I started a thread on this about a possible link but not many people were interested.

(the net must be humming. I couldn't maintain a connection)

151 posted on 04/16/2007 6:15:06 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: aft_lizard

You said: Yikes, perhaps that could be the perp, he seems to have a rather morbid view, if he isnt the guy he probably won’t need the attention he is going to get.

My thoughts:

Not only plenty of access to weapons (where did he get that nuch dough?) but also posts about breaking up with his girlfriend.


152 posted on 04/16/2007 6:16:28 PM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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To: Partisan Hack

Imus i bet would had loved for this to have happened last week


153 posted on 04/16/2007 6:16:36 PM PDT by al baby (Hi mom)
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To: LonePalm

Diplomatic reasons?


154 posted on 04/16/2007 6:17:03 PM PDT by Dallas59 (AL GORE STALKED ME ON 2/25/2007!)
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To: Partisan Hack; Texas_Jarhead; All

“Will my transgressions bring us all to our sweet end”

Yea, he quotes from Coulter also.

That’s not gonna play well in the MSM - if he’s the one.


155 posted on 04/16/2007 6:17:37 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: kittymyrib

“Chief Moose”

What cracked me up besides the incompetence, was he sounded exactly like that SNL skit “Da laaaaadys Man”
Last I heard, he is a basic patrolman in Hawaii or some place now.


156 posted on 04/16/2007 6:18:30 PM PDT by BerryDingle
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To: irish guard

You said: Got that right......then again, he’s not too bright for having put those photos in the public realm.

My thought: Won’t matter much in this realm. If he’s the perp, he’s dead. As for his being judged in the hereafter, I don’t think God will need to consult his blog entries to decide how to dispose of him.


157 posted on 04/16/2007 6:19:23 PM PDT by free_for_now (No Dick Dale in the R&R HOF? - for shame!)
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To: LonePalm

If the guy on the web page is indeed the shooter, why did he use a .22 and a 9mm instead of some of the heavier hardware? That HK has a folding stock and would easily fit into a book bag. Why not the Taurus instead of the .22?

I see you missed my rhetorical question in post #149...

We don’t know the final disposition of the high dollar gear, it may have been sold, or given away or whatever.

It seems that two crimes were committed, both heinous, but we do not know much more than that, the police are keeping silent. and they are covering their cola’s for some reason.

It is easier to open an oyster with your bare hands than it is to get a scared beaucrat to speak when it may cost them their job.


158 posted on 04/16/2007 6:20:28 PM PDT by padre35 (we are surrounded that simplifies things-Chesty Puller)
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To: free_for_now

And if he’s not the perp....he’s not too bright for having put those photos in the public realm.


159 posted on 04/16/2007 6:25:14 PM PDT by irish guard
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To: al baby

Perhaps the shooter is Don Imus!


160 posted on 04/16/2007 6:37:23 PM PDT by satan
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