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VA Tech official praised defeat of student self-defense proposal in 2006
One News Now ^ | 04.16.07 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 04/16/2007 1:20:58 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Dogbert41
I’ve completely given up on government entirely for my family or my country’s security.

Welcome to the club, where've you been. ;)

61 posted on 04/16/2007 2:33:59 PM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: Coleus

>>>After the proposal died in the state’s House Committee on Militia, Police and Public Safety, The Roanoke Times quoted VA Tech spokesman Larry Hincker as celebrating the defeat of the bill.<<<

I caution Freepers from recommending too harsh a punishment for Hincker. I recommend we drag Hincker behind a horse for only 39 miles before hanging him.


62 posted on 04/16/2007 2:34:26 PM PDT by PhilipFreneau (God deliver our nation from the disease of liberalism!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Allah Akbar, bang! bang!


63 posted on 04/16/2007 2:35:20 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Bitsy
I would feel very uncomfortable sending my son to a campus that he felt the necessity to carry a concealed weapon for protection. It’s crazy. Although I believe people have the right to bear arms and protect themselves, it seems very sad that one has to “pack” on a campus!

Like my Father told me, when I told him I "packed" a gun with me in my truck:

"It's better to have a gun and not need it, than to need a gun and not have it..."

31 students needed a gun today, and didn't have one, because they obeyed the law...

When a law restricts my ability to protect myself and my family, as far as I'm concerned, that "law" doesn't exist!

64 posted on 04/16/2007 2:35:54 PM PDT by dirtbiker (I'm a liberal's worst nightmare: Redneck with a pickup, library card, and a concealed carry permit)
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To: dirtbiker

A bill that would have given college students and employees the right to carry handguns on campus died with nary a shot being fired in the General Assembly.

Virginia Tech spokesman Larry Hincker was happy to hear the bill was defeated. "I'm sure the university community is appreciative of the General Assembly's actions because this will help parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus."

65 posted on 04/16/2007 2:37:56 PM PDT by bigjoesaddle (If Gandhi were President instead of Ronald Regan, we would be calling one another "Comrade" now.)
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To: rwgal

An offshoot idiocy: my daughter’s 19YO boyfriend can’t shoot my semiauto AT THE RANGE without his mommy present. Explanation: if he’s under 21, he has to have his legal guardian give permission. Since when does a competent 19YO have a legal guardian? Of course, I’m perfectly okay with him watching me get a boxful of .40 shells in a 4-inch grouping...

Colonel, USAFR


66 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:05 PM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: MeanWestTexan
Gun free zone = defenseless victims

Crminal empowerment zones

67 posted on 04/16/2007 2:39:28 PM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: Coleus

68 posted on 04/16/2007 2:40:45 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: PA-RIVER

That is precisely what I was thinking of.

LLS


69 posted on 04/16/2007 2:40:53 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: justiceseeker93
He needn't have been an Islamderthal himself for this to be Islamofascist plot. Remember the Oklahoma University bombing?
70 posted on 04/16/2007 2:42:16 PM PDT by magslinger (Submission? That's a bit of a problem!)
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To: dirtbiker
When a law restricts my ability to protect myself and my family, as far as I'm concerned, that "law" doesn't exist!

Amen, dirtbiker. One of the world's greatest test pilots described you, me, and millions of Americans in 18 words:

"I've always said that the rules are made for people who aren't willing to make up their own."
-- from Press On, by Chuck Yeager

71 posted on 04/16/2007 2:45:18 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: rwgal

Many people have been saying this today. But think about it if many students are allowed to say carry their handguns in their backpacks or where ever they please, and something like this happens guns will be pointed in all directions, ever heard of friendly fire? Then when the police get there who are they suppose to shoot, hard to tell when everyone is shooting. Then think about this, have you ever shot a handgun? It’s not what it looks like in the movies. I’ve taken handgun safety courses and obtained a licence for one but even I can still miss a target from 15 feet away sometimes. I am not for taking away the right to bear arms but I think before people go around saying let everyone who wants to bring their gun to campus should, needs to think of the consequences. Increased security of people trained to use these weapons should be looked into first.


72 posted on 04/16/2007 2:49:44 PM PDT by migjig (Nobody has more guts than our soldiers!)
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To: Coleus

Some thoughts on the Virginia Tech tragedy.

We are at war, both abroad and AT HOME, with an enemy who has sworn to kill as many of us as possible. This enemy DOES NOT recognize conventional rules of war such as the Geneva Convention. They do not wear recognizable uniforms. This enemy DOES NOT distinguish between military and civilian targets. At present civilian targets in the United States are NOT ARMED and have very little means by which to counter an attack. And because civilian targets are NOT armed, they are a softer, easier, less dangerous target than a heavily armed soldier. For that reason, this enemy PREFERS civilian targets.

As of this writing, we have yet to learn whether the deaths of 32 Americans at Virginia Tech was the work of a disgruntled, deranged student or former university employee.

It’s entirely possible that this killer was, in fact, a member of some radical muslin sect who took it upon himself to conduct what is now being called “instant jihad” against a very soft target, obeying the utterances of one of the more radical Muslim mullahs and randomly killing as many Americans as possible. At least one Muslim cleric has specifically called for the killing of our children. Given the PC environment in this country – which is at its zenith on college campuses – we may NEVER learn that fact from the authorities in charge of this investigation AND IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER BECAUSE THE DEFENSELESS VICTIMS ARE JUST AS DEAD!

Israel has been at war with these folks for more than half a century. The Israeli’s know that it is NOT possible to have enough police out there to protect their civilian population. For that reason, it is common to see Israeli citizens – admittedly former military (as most Israelis are) going about their daily lives – with an Uzi slung under their arm! Most Israeli citizens carry smaller weapons not so easily seen. Because they ARE at war, they are an ARMED society. Yes, they ARE attacked. But –with the exception of suicide bombers — the attackers know that they will either be killed BEFORE the body count mounts or will certainly die before fleeing the scene.

The Israeli’s REFUSE to live as prisoners. Many of them had experienced that in Europe. They KNEW what they had to do and did it: THEY GRASPED THE SIMPLE FACT THAT WHEN IT CAME TO IMMEDIATE PERSONAL SECURITY, A CITIZEN IS ON HIS OWN AND ALLOW THEIR CITIZENS THE GOD-GIVEN RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!

Any guesses when American “authorities” will begin to connect the dots? Can you say “never?” Without SERIOUS public pressure on these “authorities,” we will continue to die needlessly while waiting for the SWAT boys to show up.

What amazes me is that more of this sort of thing hasn’t happened in OTHER soft targets like public and private schools, shopping malls, theaters, sports bars (most states currently prohibit even CCW permit holders from carrying in bars), restaurants, etc.

The enemy is NOT stupid. This is just the beginning.
And if you think you and yours will NOT be in the cross-hairs, think again.


73 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:07 PM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Red Badger

“Lawsuits are gonna be flying”

Anybody gotta liability theory on who’s gonna be “responsible”?


74 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:28 PM PDT by baclava
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To: Finny

Another irony. A lot of the students shown on TV seem to be in military uniform. I don’t suppose they can be trusted to shoot straight and safely/ sarc


75 posted on 04/16/2007 2:50:50 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: baclava
Anybody gotta liability theory on who’s gonna be “responsible”?

Of course. It will be the gun manufacturer, don'cha know.

76 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Coleus
I live 10 miles from a Big Ten University in Pennsylvania and this is exactly why I refuse to to on that campus anymore. To many idiot liberals on that campus, and I will not be a sacrifice for their stupidity.

The occurrence at Virgina Tech will not be the last. As long as schools prevent the right to carry on their campuses they will be a target rich environment for anyone who wants to kill without having to worry about the consequences.

Once again, unfortunately, liberal stupidity (I know, it’s an oxymoron) has resulted in actions having undesired and brutal consequences.

77 posted on 04/16/2007 2:51:31 PM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is code word for anti-white racism)
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To: magslinger
He needn't have been an Islamderthal himself for this to be Islamofascist plot.

Very true. More to the point is the infamous Oklahoma City Murrah Building bombing in 1995. Although government and the MSM never told us the truth about that one, McVeigh and Nichols were agents and fronts for a much wider conspiracy masterminded by Iraqis who had gotten into the US after the Gulf War. (Reference: Jayna Davis, The Third Terrorist (Nashville, TN: WND Books, 2004)).

78 posted on 04/16/2007 2:56:10 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Coleus

Time to turn the tables and say that gun-grabbers like Schumer and his cohorts in the state aided and abetted the murderer and demand they resign - now.


79 posted on 04/16/2007 2:59:06 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Ice-cubes melting in the sun is an act of God. Get over it, Gore.)
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To: migjig

DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! Yesssssssss, In fact I have a CC for Nevada, I have fired every caliber of weapon from .22 up to a 20mm and 50 calibur.....Let me get this straight, you would rather the police not have to sort things out because if there were a lot of people with a weapon it might get messy...we I think that if there was a gunman and 30 students with a gun, then the majority of those 30 studenst would be aiming at the gunman.... get a grip

Meadow Muffin


80 posted on 04/16/2007 3:02:27 PM PDT by rwgal
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