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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Thank you for at least the only REASONABLE retort to my post so far.

I’m like a freakin’ pariah now to all these people who have no clue what I’m about (I consider it libel to be pegged a liberal, when I’m not).

Anyway, of course, your points are all well-taken.

The point of the ban would be that those caught would be punished, at least. At least it would be generally well understood that students aren’t going to have any weapons (and we always talk about GUNS, but there ARE other weapons).

My concern would be these students are largely irresponsible (in general; I’m not talking if they can handle a gun well when sober - and this is no matter what anyone here says to the contrary; I hold to my opinion). They may not have any intention of “mass murdering” in an instant in time, but their foolishness and carelessness - and self-centeredness - can lead to lots of general injuries/deaths. “how dare he look at me funny” - BANG

That’s what I’m afraid would happen.

What’s wrong with a gated, secure, campus entrance? Might be good ideas. To help mitigate the lack of student weapons.

And again, please note not only students are on campus. I mentioned staff, faculty, anyone working there, should have weaponry.


1,656 posted on 04/16/2007 12:53:08 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
My concern would be these students are largely irresponsible (in general; I’m not talking if they can handle a gun well when sober - and this is no matter what anyone here says to the contrary; I hold to my opinion). They may not have any intention of “mass murdering” in an instant in time, but their foolishness and carelessness - and self-centeredness - can lead to lots of general injuries/deaths. “how dare he look at me funny” - BANG Most of the folks defending your right to say what you just did are 18-25 years old. They not only carry handguns, they carry rifles, drive tanks with 120mm guns, fly planes with really big bombs attached and fire off big ass missiles....anyways you get the picture. I trust them to have good judgement. Most college kids are good people and deserve the right to defend themselves from the results of conservatives like me losing the philosophical battles of the 70's, 80's and 90's.
I trust kids...besides which being a kid 18 years old does not mean you give up your right to your life. I do not accept the liberal notion that more guns cause more crime.
Btw so far have used my weapon twice to prevent and stop crime. No one was shot...but it sure felt nice having it just in case anyone was aching to be shot.
1,748 posted on 04/16/2007 1:13:25 PM PDT by PierreLegrand
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To: the OlLine Rebel
What’s wrong with a gated, secure, campus entrance? Might be good ideas. To help mitigate the lack of student weapons.

Lets see, First off you have to put a big fence around the campus like a prison. Then you are going to have to search everyone who enters and you are going to have to do periodic searches of the entire campus itself. Now are you going to include all the housing and what about the off campus housing?

Fine, bigger fence, more guards, less privacy, probably strip searches and cavity checks. Now is it anymore secure or is it a trap? Do you really think it is possible to completely secure an University Campus? I can get an armory on board an airplane right now. For the moment lets pretend you can secure the school.

So now let us get 19 suicide attackers, they attack one of the check points, kill the guards and start shooting anyone they see. The thirty thousand students have no where to run, no place to hide. I guess the question becomes how many bullets can the terrorists carry in a truck?

Would you go to this prison, err school?

1,763 posted on 04/16/2007 1:16:55 PM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
What’s wrong with a gated, secure, campus entrance? Might be good ideas. To help mitigate the lack of student weapons.

You MIGHT be able to do that at a very small school that isn't actually inside a town. But at Virginia Tech, for example, the campus is 2600 acres, with over 25,000 undergrads and thousands more grad students, faculty, and staff. It sprawls over a huge area, right up against downtown Blacksburg on one side and out into open country on the other. Important streets and highways (including US 460, the main highway that connects Blacksburg to Interstate 81) run adjacent to or through campus. There's no way you can secure that without turning it into either a prison or an Army base.

}:-)4

1,785 posted on 04/16/2007 1:22:41 PM PDT by Moose4 (What's the difference between Mike Nifong and toast? Right about now, nothing.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
“how dare he look at me funny” - BANG

"How dare he murder so callously" - HANG!

1,872 posted on 04/16/2007 1:41:18 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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