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Shots fired at Virginia Tech (AP: 33 dead, 15 wounded)
http://www.vtnews.vt.edu/story.php?relyear=2007&itemno=248 ^

Posted on 04/16/2007 7:14:16 AM PDT by LexHoskin

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To: kcvl

Okay, this is getting weirder. Israeli professor killed in a building where a Palestinian student happens to be outside at the time recording the “shots” on his cell phone.

I guess coincidences happen.


4,181 posted on 04/17/2007 3:02:56 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: dawn53

A noted Indian professor there at VT (India is in South Asia) was also gunned down. India is in shock. This was the top story in the Rediff, Times of India, Hindu, Hindustan Times, everywhere.


4,182 posted on 04/17/2007 3:04:27 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Uhm, if it is a Chi-com student I think the question should be what’s wrong with the Chinese. In all seriousness, they don’t understand our love and defense of our right to bare arms. They don’t have to and they are free to run things the way they see fit. Do they compare our murder rate to many other places with much stricter gun control? It’s a societal issue, not laws. No easy fix I’m afraid.


4,183 posted on 04/17/2007 3:05:34 AM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Yeah and I read a
German prof too was killed. How many classrooms did this guy hit...three at least from the number of professors killed (unless the professors were in the hallways.)


4,184 posted on 04/17/2007 3:09:36 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: kcvl
What a resume for this Professor. So far have heard nothing about him from the talking heads.

Antenna go up after learning this information. Thanks for he post.

PLA hit? Just speculation of course.

4,185 posted on 04/17/2007 3:09:50 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

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4,186 posted on 04/17/2007 3:10:12 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

CNN just reported that Prof. Liviu Librescu is a Holocaust survivor. He is originally from Romania, and emigrated to the U.S. from Israel.


4,187 posted on 04/17/2007 3:14:42 AM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: Blue Jays
The gun grabbers should be hiding today but instead will be trying to make headlines. If VT students who had CCW permits were allowed to carry on campus, perhaps some dead kids would be alive today. The legistators who voted to restrict guns on campus have a lot to answer to this morning. Right thinking gun owners need to go on the offensive, not cower.
4,188 posted on 04/17/2007 3:18:51 AM PDT by Russ7
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To: CaliGirl-R

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4,189 posted on 04/17/2007 3:22:56 AM PDT by CaliGirl-R (America is a "safe haven" for terrorists thanks to Political Correctness!)
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To: A Navy Vet
Put a side-arm on every responsible hip and let the chips fall where they may.

agree with all you say. It is insane to think restricting guns helps. Prepare to be very pi**ed at the MSM frothing over "why are guns so easy to get." You will see precious few in government stating the obvious -- that we need to train and arm school personnel.

4,190 posted on 04/17/2007 3:23:34 AM PDT by sand88
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To: advance_copy
That almost reminds me of poor Haing S. Ngor. Many may not recall the name. But he was the academy award winner in something like 1983 for the Best Supporting Actor.

Here he escapes all kinds of hell, torture, Khmer Rouge genocide, landminds, makes it to SAFETY, to the WEST, to our BELOVED UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

He is here but for 15 years, and then is gunned down in some parking lot in LA at late night because three, high gang-bangers with pistols and tough attitudes wanted his necklace (which was his only remembrance of his wife in Cambodia and which he would not surrender).

The poor man comes to the dream and safety of America, and is gunned down by own own, stinking, inner city animals/thugs. How ironic?

4,191 posted on 04/17/2007 3:23:47 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: hawkeye101
"but his work inside that building (IMHO) was of a trained killer."

Agree. Considering the professor who was killed - the Romanian - IMHO - he was the target and everyone else was planned collateral damage to make it appear a wacked out student going on a rampage. This was no "rampage," IMHO.

But am just an observer with no facts other than what we know at this point.

Will we ever hear such speculation on the MSM? I haven't heard a single discussion about the professor yet.

4,192 posted on 04/17/2007 3:26:47 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: IIntense

>>And why should we trust school authorities with weapons? Most of them are liberal and probably support gun control, as in, the average citizen should not have one. More to the point, that profession is no more exempt from outrageous behavior than any other.

This was an engineering school. Engineering and the hard sciences (the ones without “science” in the name, typically) are *not* refuges for Liberals.


4,193 posted on 04/17/2007 3:28:13 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

What’s wrong with these foreign universities? Why do they feel so obliged to send so many students to American institutions?


4,194 posted on 04/17/2007 3:31:41 AM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Tulsa Ramjet
Part of the problem is we have Rodney Kinged our police officers into being afraid to actually chase a criminal for fear of lawsuit.
4,195 posted on 04/17/2007 3:31:47 AM PDT by Condor 63
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sorry did not read your post - think you have it exactly right. Window dressing for a planned (PLA?) hit of the Professor. If so, we will never be told these facts. This would be an act of war.


4,196 posted on 04/17/2007 3:32:15 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Russ7
While we don't know enough to know for sure yet, it seems odd that no one Flight-93ed the guy. While it could be that it did happen and he was just that good with his guns, could it be a result of the insane "never, ever fight back" stuff some of the public schools insist on these days? It's hard to believe that no one had a cup of hot coffee in a morning class.

-Eric

4,197 posted on 04/17/2007 3:33:57 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Russ7
The gun grabbers should be hiding today but instead will be trying to make headlines.

If anyone saw the lousy film "event horizon" or the South Park Woodland Critter Christmas Special then you will be familiar with the term "blood orgy" This is what the Brady whore and her crooked accomplices in Kongress will be indulging in for the next couple of months.

4,198 posted on 04/17/2007 3:35:06 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
The Holocaust survivor who was killed, was a hero. He put himself against the door, while his students jumped out the window.
4,199 posted on 04/17/2007 3:35:53 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..Doing real on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

In the absence of further evidence, I would not draw much inference about these connections. Most major engineering colleges have several Jewish faculty, many of whom have ties to Israel or dual Israeli citizenship. Also, most active researchers on the engineering faculty at Virginia Tech or elsewhere have done work on Department of Defense sponsored research projects. Finally, most of the faculty at the Virginia Tech who have had long careers have dozens of publications on their resume.

This professor’s death was a tragedy, as were the deaths of all the other victims. In the absence of other evidence, I don’t read much ‘strategy’ into this, other than the gunman picked a place where he could kill a lot of people.

I have many friends in the College of Engineering at Virginia Tech. On a certain level, I am not fully satisfied with the ‘answer’ that this was a lonely Chinese student upset over a breakup with a girlfriend, as the damage he has caused was so far beyond the bounds of that. I think there was a degree of preparation by the shooter that extended back at least several weeks, and I think the shooter must have had some formal military training. I hope there will be answers in the coming days, when the shooter is positively identified and we learn more about his background and motives.


4,200 posted on 04/17/2007 3:36:13 AM PDT by CaptainMorgantown
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