Land=Democrat
First two responses = kneejerk
Nobody's ever heard of him, and all of a sudden he's a "leader".
At least, she is not going around justifying how one candidate's adulterous affair (McCain) is not as bad as another candidat'e adulterous affair (Giuliani).
This is why Giuliani is a bad candidate for the Republican Party. He’s too divisive.
Mr. Land is an idiot.
Two points - Going in reverse order - MR. Land may be speaking some truth that Giuliani may very well have to win without social conservatives. But the fact that he would vote for Hillary in ANY circumstances just shows why the SBC is back on their downhill slide. I held out some hope for the SBC of recent. But we now see what is turning that organization back liberal...
I to can not vote for Rudy McRomney. I will go third party.
What many of us have been trying to tell you over the past few months is—if you are going tell us socons to “get out of the party” then be prepared for the consequences. It will be you, and you alone, who will be responsible for Hillary becoming the next POTUS if Rudy gets nominated (he won’t).
Your message has been loud and clear, now the socons are responding. Let’s see how it works out for you not having us conservatives in the republican party—you hypocritical liberals.
((((RUDY PING))))
So Mr. Land is a socialist. I wouldn't be surprised if he contributed to Hillary's campaign already since Rudy is #1 in the polls.
I am making a prediction that Rudy will NOT be the frontrunner come this fall - a lot will change between now & then. It will be Rudy’s supporters that will have to get behind another candidate.
DRAMA QUEEN!
I would support Land sitting out the election on principle.
I don’t know what principle he would use to vote FOR Hillary Clinton over Rudy.
Now, if Hillary was a pro-life, pro-2nd-amendment democrat, I could understand a person voting his philosophy over party.
But as liberal as Rudy is, I can’t think of any issue of importance where Rudy is more liberal or more wrong than Hillary.
Hillary does of course have much more experience with the issues that effect this country, having sat in the White house for 8 years and having served in a federal legislature for another 7 years. That gives here a much broader understanding of the concerns of the world than a guy who was nothing more than mayor of a single city.
But experience isn’t everything, and for Land, who certainly is voting morals, the only morals Hillary has over Rudy is that Hillary never got divorced, even when her husband cheated on her. For whatever reason, she did keep her vow to stay married.
I think the many, many, MANY Rudy threads on this forum illustrate a political shift in the making. Clearly, social conservatives and the Republican Party are about to part ways. The pro-life commitment of many GOP politicians has been cynical and half-hearted at best, and now it’s no secret that the values dearest to many of us are objects of ridicule to some of the people we had considered our allies and even our leaders. The Rudybots here keep taunting us, “So where will you go? Nobody else wants you either!” But if Rudy gets the nomination, I expect some enterprising soul will come up with an option for us, if not in 2008 then soon thereafter.
Land is just being sensationalistic.
It would be ignorant to vote for EITHER Hillary or Giuliani.
There are other choices.
The best alternative if those are the choices, since we’ll lose no matter which way we turn, is to WRITE-IN ones favorite conservative....for me at this point, that would be Hunter or Thompson....no matter how they do in the primaries.
That is the only way to send a legitimate message to the REPUBLICAN Party about how they blew it.
Yeah, real evangelicals are going to vote for the W###e of Babylon over Rudy. Uh huh...
My only objection to Land’s remark is that he’d vote for EITHER ONE of them. I won’t.
Congratulations, Mr. Land! You're a Democrat. Enjoy your strange new friends.
And if Mr. Giuliani wins, "he'll do so without social conservatives," Mr. Land said.
If "social conservative" now means "willing to abandon American government to filth like Hillary"...count me out. I was under the impression that it meant something higher and better than that.
Republicans eat their own and then claim “we did it to teach them a lesson.” Never mind the consequences.