Posted on 04/16/2007 4:29:04 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
***... Mr. Giuliani maintains a big lead over his Republican rivals in the polls yet has all the wrong policy positions on social issues such as abortion and homosexual rights considered key to cultivating Christian conservatives. However, some evangelicals and pro-life Catholics seem willing to overlook his faults -- including his two divorces -- in the belief that he is the only Republican actually running who can defeat the Democratic nominee in 2008.
Still, Mr. Giuliani and conservative Christians "probably have irreconcilable differences on life and family and that kind of thing," said Mr. Falwell, adding, "I couldn't support him for president."
Nor is Mr. Dobson in Mr. Giuliani's cheering section.
"I do not believe that the current excitement over Giuliani will continue," Mr. Dobson told U.S. News & World Report.
Richard Land, president of the Religious and Ethics Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, takes a hard line against virtually all the major Republican candidates. He says he'd vote for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, New York Democrat, over Mr. Giuliani if the 2008 presidential race came down to such a choice. And if Mr. Giuliani wins, "he'll do so without social conservatives," Mr. Land said. .....
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Okay. I argued that, at least here on FR, Hunter would not be as divisive of a frontrunner as Giuliani is. Why? Because he's a conservative. Am I not being clear? Or am I missing your point entirely?
Congratulations, Mr. Land! You're a Democrat. Enjoy your strange new friends.
And if Mr. Giuliani wins, "he'll do so without social conservatives," Mr. Land said.
If "social conservative" now means "willing to abandon American government to filth like Hillary"...count me out. I was under the impression that it meant something higher and better than that.
Republicans eat their own and then claim “we did it to teach them a lesson.” Never mind the consequences.
I posted the pictures (in case you cannot read) and Julie-Annie's own words...
I didn't need to say it, Julie-Annie does that just fine... he is a socialist...
Rino Rudy is a socialist.
“Land...what a Moron. If he thinks that Clinton will appoint conservative Judges and Guiliani won’t, he’s not fit to lead anything!”
Neither would. What’s the difference?
Except for one, in my personal opinion:
According to multiple news reports, during his second divorce he temporarily lived with a gay couple who were his close friends.
I could care less that Rudy has friends who are gay, or that he felt comfortable living with them when he needed a place to stay.
What was important was that this man who supposedly is powerful enough to be the strongest man on the war on terror, had to go live in an apartment with a gay couple WHILE he was Mayor. He was thrown out of his own mansion by his wife.
It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. I'm sorry, but that whole post is so Mr. Rogers sounding and a little too full of flaky granola for me. You sound very noble, but I think you are oversimplifying the problem.
I see. Well, I guess we could debate who the adults here are, but I’ve already made up my mind and I don't intend to waste time debating it. Gotta go to work now.
Absolutely! Lets pretend that DH is the perfect resurrection of RR, 'kay? There would be DU and MO djickwads who would perform the same division techniques. Were this perect reincarnation of RR to clearly lead in the polls, you would have the same desperation continually frothed at us. It is done by phonies just trying to disrupt the base against voting for whomever captures the primary and represents us in the general. You understand now?
Ping for psuedo-conservative Guiliani.
You are exactly right!
When Clinton and Gore were running the first time, Dr. Land made a statement about having two So. Baptist in the White House. I took it to mean that he was sort of endorsing them.
I called his office in Nashville and was quite vocal about my feelings. It was only a day or two before, I received a letter explaining his remarks, and it wasn’t what I thought at all.
If he causes division amongst the members of DU instead of the members of FR, then why the heck would you worry?
Rudy, like Hillary, is a socialist. Conservatives don’t vote for socialists.
You think Hillary has more conservative views on gun control than Rudy? I don’t see any evidence of it in her speeches, but maybe I missed it?
She has an “F” rating from the NRA.
They may be in sync on gun control, but I don’t think he’s to her left.
Well, you just go on ahead and separate, categorize, praise the naysayers and damn the pragmatics. Enjoy your continued loss of power.
“The compromise position at the Federal level is leave it to the states. If Rudy had accepted this (meager) compromise I could still support him.”
April 13, 2007
More On Rudy’s Federalism Dodge
Andrew Sullivan implies that we take issue with federalism. Certainly not. There are certainly a great many questions, most of them cultural and provincial, that are best decided by state and local governments. And Rudy Giuliani might even be correct, in an ultimate sense, that the topics he’s been confronted with are best deliberated and adjudicated by state legislatures.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/more_on_rudys_f_1.html
You really are dim, aren’t you?
” . . . However, I believe in a woman’s right to choose.” Your post 101, quoting RG
He has said he’d appoint Justices that could overturn Roe.
Your post 113
That’s the best `mealy-mouthing’ I’ve seen in a long time.
Whoa, okay, you're definitely not Mr. Rogers. You sound like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde now.
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