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Giuliani Defends Clinton on 9/11 Efforts (What the?!)
FOX News ^ | 09/27/2006 | Matt Sedensky

Posted on 04/15/2007 2:57:29 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Why would you expect one socialist not support another?


21 posted on 04/15/2007 3:16:15 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: FairOpinion

actually, that was a huge mistake by Bush. perhaps the single biggest of his “new tone” approach.

but we are stuck with it now - what he did letting Berger go, his failure to politicize the blame for 9-11, etc.

but what the hell - let’s blame Rudy for it and move on.


22 posted on 04/15/2007 3:18:45 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: FairOpinion

I agree.


23 posted on 04/15/2007 3:19:18 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: mborman

I think Rudys trying to get the DumocRat nomination because he will never make to the primaries with his liberal B*llSh*t. Keep talking Rudy!


24 posted on 04/15/2007 3:20:42 PM PDT by JessieHelmsJr
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

25 posted on 04/15/2007 3:24:21 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: FairOpinion
"Sure, Ted Olson and Steve Forbes are known to be flaming liberals."

Even money Forbes joined because Rudy told him he supported a flat-tax, which of course Rudy later stated that he did not support any kind of flat-tax.

Their support was also before Rudy started opening his yap and spewing his Liberal crap.

26 posted on 04/15/2007 3:27:56 PM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: oceanview; FairOpinion; TommyDale

Not blaming Rudy for Bush’s lack of spine. But considering his supposed “tough on terror” credentials, this is disappointing.


27 posted on 04/15/2007 3:29:02 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Why vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008? Look at my profile.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Rudy, why in the world are you sticking up for Clinton and his do-nothing policy?!"

Rudy: Because Bill Clinton's policies are a lot like mine.

28 posted on 04/15/2007 3:31:34 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: FairOpinion
**** Sure, Ted Olson and Steve Forbes are known to be flaming liberals. (/sarc)****

There you go again with the Ted Olson baloney. As I posted to you before with the actual numbers, over the years Ted Olson has contributed money to DEMOCRATS. He was also extremly free with his money for Rooty-tooty when he was mayor and supporting liberals 24/7.

Anyway, who died and made him 'Conservative in Chief'?

So stop with the Ted Olson crap. Ted Olson is nobody special. He's just another lawyer.

29 posted on 04/15/2007 3:34:50 PM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Not blaming Rudy for Bush’s lack of spine. But considering his supposed “tough on terror” credentials, this is disappointing.

This is a case where Rudy would have handled it a lot like Clinton. He has compared himself to Clinton regarding his policy.

30 posted on 04/15/2007 3:35:12 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

The way Rudy can flip and flop while singing a different tune out both sides of his mouth, his talents seem suited to the entertainment business (circus?).


31 posted on 04/15/2007 3:35:40 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (When the law becomes the outlaw, only outlaws benefit from the law.)
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To: pleikumud
"Most of [President] Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine"
--Rudolph Giuliani, New York Post, Jun 8, 1999
(restating RWG quote from 1996)
"I don't think tonight's result is tragic, I guess because I'm not that partisan a person ...
I think President Clinton is a good man, he's a very decent man, and the country has run pretty well."
--Rudolph Giuliani, commenting on Bob Dole's loss in the 1996 presidential election.
New York Times, Nov 7, 1996

32 posted on 04/15/2007 3:36:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Condor51
So stop with the Ted Olson crap. Ted Olson is nobody special. He's just another lawyer.

They get into the name dropping thing.

They repeat them over and over ad nauseum.

You are supposed to be impressed, and vote for Rudy because Ted says he is voting for Rudy. LOL

33 posted on 04/15/2007 3:38:21 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
What drivel. He lost any thought of a vote from me.
34 posted on 04/15/2007 3:38:45 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: cripplecreek

One step right... two steps left... for the past 55 years.


35 posted on 04/15/2007 3:39:12 PM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Didn’t Rummy even say the stories of Able Danger are not real?


36 posted on 04/15/2007 3:39:13 PM PDT by DemEater
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To: oceanview

http://www.washingtonspeakers.com/speakers/speaker.cfm?SpeakerId=3996
check out the video to the right, where Fred talks about Terrorism pre-9/11, and how we are not prepared, because of millitary budget cuts, that where heavily due to the Clinton administration.


37 posted on 04/15/2007 3:40:12 PM PDT by RatsDawg
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
The people who deserve blame for Sept. 11, I think we should remind ourselves, are the terrorists _ the Islamic fanatics

Tell that to the Treasoncrats who regularly blame the US and Israel, as if the terrorists had a right to fly them planes into the buildings.

38 posted on 04/15/2007 3:41:07 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
I have not yet decided who I will vote for in the primaries, but I don't see anything wrong with this.

He's right. The ones responsible for the attacks were the Islamofacists. Clinton was/is a piece of trash, but to blame him for the attacks would be ridiculous. He most certainly could have done more to prevent it but let's lay the blame squarely where it belongs. How would blaming him for the attacks be any different from the demented scumbags who to this day say we deserved it, or were asking for it? I don't see this as Rudy sticking up for clinton, I see it as focusing on the perpertrators and staying away from finger waving.

"The jihadists very much want a victory in Iraq. They feel that if they could defeat us in Iraq they will have a great victory for terrorism,"Giuliani said."What that should do is organize us to say if they want a big victory in Iraq then we have to deprive them of that victory."

This is different from what he's saying now.

Terrorists "are going to continue to be at war with us, no matter what the outcome in Iraq," Mr. Giuliani said recently in New Hampshire. The night before, he said that "there are no sure things, "and that if the United States fails in Iraq, "we have to be ready for that, too." In California a few days later, speaking of "the danger of focusing on Iraq too much," he said that complete success there would not win the fight against terrorism, and that failure there would not lose it.

Again, what is the problem with this? We are going to continue to be at war regardless of what happens in Iraq. President Bush has said many times that this will be a long war and that Iraq is just one front in the overall picture. I don't think that anyone can honestly say that our success in Iraq would mean that our enemies will give up fighting, and likewise I don't think anyone can honestly say that failure there would mean that we have lost this generational war. Rudy is right when he says that complete success there would not win the war and that failure would not lose it. It would be a severe blow to our chances of ultimately defeating the Islamofacist threat but it would by no means be the end, not for the US.

Now....flame away

39 posted on 04/15/2007 3:42:48 PM PDT by frankiep (Beer - the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
For the life of me, I truly don’t understand why there are people on this this board defending a run for presidency from mr. rudy. It’s a non-go, ain’t gonna happen, he’s a new york liberal.......think people....
40 posted on 04/15/2007 3:44:03 PM PDT by ScreamingFist (Annihilation - The result of underestimating your enemies. NRA)
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