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AP NewsBreak: Police find driver in Corzine crash, won't charge
AP ^ | 4/14/2007 | Beth Defalco

Posted on 04/14/2007 10:30:07 AM PDT by 50mm

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To: zarf; OldFriend; aumrl; Coleus

Jersey Forum....where are you???


101 posted on 04/14/2007 1:17:43 PM PDT by Betteboop
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To: PA-RIVER
That said, we now have to know why his emergency lights were flashing. Was there a true emergency, or was King Corzine just moving the peons out of his way?

I think you know the answer to that. I think the only reason no charges are being pressed is because the fault is divided, BUT the governor was probably most to blame. I doubt there was any emergency, if so, we would have heard about it by now.

We had a similar type accident last year. A vehicle in the right lane had inadvertantly crossed over into the left, clipping a vehicle in the left. Vehicle 1 kept going thinking nothing had happened.

Vehicle 2 ended up rolling (news said 18 times). It was a LOT! As luck would have it, there was a state police car behind these vehicles and they got the whole thing on camera. The woman had some brokem ribs and a couple of other minor injuries but came out of it pretty good considering.

They finally tracked down the first vehicle and they just finished the trial. He was found guilty and got something like 18 months probation and some sort of fine I think. I just happened to hear the result in some news blurb.

102 posted on 04/14/2007 1:31:31 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,500 fines?)
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To: 50mm
“mental impairment.”

They mean that the other driver was a democrat.

103 posted on 04/14/2007 1:40:11 PM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Netizen
Not charging any driver speaks volumes.

They know it will be a major embarrassment to pursue it any further. What is disturbing is that they find an excuse to avoid prosecuting "Red" after all the talk of hit and run on his part. What if the guy was you or me? Would they be prosecuting? I wonder.

104 posted on 04/14/2007 1:54:15 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Brilliant

Right!

The Governor broke two laws: speeding and not wearing his seatbelt. His third mistake was speeding to help moderate a discussion between Don Imus & those Rutgers girls. This was and is a tempest in a teapot and the governor should have better things to do considering the huge problems in NJ. I’m ashamed of him and my state.

That said, I hope he speedily recovers.


105 posted on 04/14/2007 2:01:30 PM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Moose4
"What’s a “special needs” driver? Handicapped placarded, maybe? Anybody from Joisey know?"

He has a special need to stop and take a leak every 15 miles while driving.

106 posted on 04/14/2007 2:03:52 PM PDT by albee (The best thing you can do for the poor is.....not be one of them. - Eric Hoffer)
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To: t2buckeye
I have no doubt that the red car probably merged from the shoulder onto the road without allowing for the speed of the cars on the parkway...

What was he doing on the shoulder anyway? Sounds to me like your typical NJ idiot who's impatient and decides to try to pass by using the right shoulder.

107 posted on 04/14/2007 2:09:51 PM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: PA-RIVER

Or maybe the mentally challenged driver has a big shot daddy.


108 posted on 04/14/2007 2:28:32 PM PDT by Krankor (kROGER)
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To: 50mm
No one has mentioned that when you see speeding vehicles behind you with their lights flashing, you are supposed to pull over to the right if possible. Maybe that's what Red had done.

What he forgot was that New Jerseyans treat the "slow" lane of the Parkway as if it were the Nascar lane.

109 posted on 04/14/2007 2:28:44 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: PA-RIVER
They know it will be a major embarrassment to pursue it any further. What is disturbing is that they find an excuse to avoid prosecuting "Red" after all the talk of hit and run on his part. What if the guy was you or me? Would they be prosecuting? I wonder.

I think its because they want to avoid a lot of questions. The first being why a mentally impaired person is driving in the first place! Red HAS to be involved, it is the only explanation for why white would have gone left. If red left after the accident he is still in trouble because even a witness has to stay behind.

Too bad the media won't persue the emergency that had the governor speeding.....

110 posted on 04/14/2007 2:38:31 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,500 fines?)
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To: zarf
What’s a “special needs” driver? Anyone from Jersey. Amen. When I identify the tailgater behind me, it invariably is a New Jersey driver.
111 posted on 04/14/2007 2:45:01 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (27 B stroke 6 required)
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To: ContraryMary
What was he doing on the shoulder anyway? Sounds to me like your typical NJ idiot who's impatient and decides to try to pass by using the right shoulder.

He moved off the road like he is supposed to when he saw the speeding vehicle with emergency flashers going. The question is, why didn't the white truck do so and was there REALLY an emergency??

112 posted on 04/14/2007 2:57:35 PM PDT by Netizen (If we can't locate/deport illegals, how will we get them to come forward to pay their $3,500 fines?)
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To: Howlin

I never said YOU said that!


113 posted on 04/14/2007 3:01:35 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: PA-RIVER

The obvious answer as to why they didn’t charge is that his vehicle made no impact on the other cars.....he may have been there, he may be their intended scapegoat....but if his car did not physically contact another vehicle.....lucky him.


114 posted on 04/14/2007 3:17:26 PM PDT by tioga
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To: CyberAnt

Oh, you must forgive me. I thought surely when you said “I believe you have the right answer,” you were speaking to me.


115 posted on 04/14/2007 3:30:12 PM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Howlin

You’re taking this personally and you know that always gets people in trouble.

I said: “And .. I believe you have the right answer. If they are going to allow illegals to run wild .. then they have to support not putting them in jail even if they commit a crime .. how silly of us not to see that !!”

Of couse, I didn’t realize that I should have made another paragraph out of the second sentence - “If they are going ...”. And .. I guess I assumed the word “they” would have been a clue that I was not talking about you or quoting you! I was talking about the NJ people.

Does that clear things up!


116 posted on 04/14/2007 3:35:41 PM PDT by CyberAnt ("... first time in history the U.S. House has attempted to surrender via C-SPAN TV ...")
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To: 50mm

117 posted on 04/14/2007 3:37:41 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Netizen
I think “white” was in front of Corzine, in left lane, then moved to the right lane when he saw “Red” go into the shoulder. I think this is the key. There were several lane changes in a span of seconds, made by two drivers trying to avoid an emergency vehicle with flashing lights.

Now, Thats Two initial lane changes.

(”Red” simply over-reacted when he saw the flashing emergency lights flashing behind him. He probably thought a true emergency was in progress.)

Then “Red” looked in the mirror,( with blind spot), and did not see “white” moving into his lane, yet saw the “emergency” vehicle in the fast lane getting ready to pass, so he moved back into right lane. White was in his blind spot. White moved left to avoid red.

Now, Thats two more abrupt lane changes. A total of four.

Then “Red” looks in mirror, only to see Corzine crash.

“Red” made a simple mistake while dealing with an “emergency” situation, that being a sitting governor rushing to a photo op.

118 posted on 04/14/2007 3:38:14 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Betteboop; DixieOklahoma; reuben barruchstein; theprophetyellszambolamboromo; Alusch; ...
I see that Edward Potts, Jr. veered off into a grassy median, then to compensate, swerved too much to the left that caused the chain of events to the accident. Anyway, I am just wondering why there was no mention of cell phone use by either persons involved, the driver of the red truck, the driver of corzine's SUV (using an SUV to conserve gas and save the environment, eh?) or the driver of the white minivan? Just a thought. I'll pose more rhetorical questions, should a state issue driver's licenses to people with special needs giving them a license to kill? Should the state allow people over the age of 75 to continue driving without vision and reflex testing? Should the governor use the State Police Medevac helicopters as other governors did previously?
 
See Dick call. See Jane text. Why parents are giving in to children's requests for cell phones 

119 posted on 04/14/2007 3:51:54 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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While moving left into the other lane, the rear bumper of the white truck nicked the front bumper of the Governors gas-saving SUV, that motion pushed the SUV in a counter-clockwise direction into the guardrail and beyond. I just heard on the news that the impact was so severe that the governor was jettisoned from the front seat and was found in the REAR CARGO HOLD of the "gas-saving" SUV.

Having the governor use the State Police Medevac helicopter has been a topic of consternation. Both parties (depending on who is sitting in the governor's office) either complain about the cost to the taxpayers and that it's sometime used for campaigning or they pontificate to the other party and electorate that by not using it they are saving the taxpayers money and are no different than the average taxpayer who must use NJ's congested roads, meanwhile the tax-saving politicians approve salary raises and budget increases in the billions and can't account for the billions spent, then brag that they are saving us money by not using the helicopter.

120 posted on 04/14/2007 4:09:39 PM PDT by Coleus (Happy Easter, Jesus Christ is Risen, Hallelujah!)
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