Posted on 04/14/2007 10:14:39 AM PDT by Spiff
In God I trust, but you are right that I'm putting my hopes in Rudy.
My FRiend, with all kind respect, nothing is as troubling as seeing someone I consider a conscientious person (you) maintain support for someone whose moral fiber on Biblical issues is so Romans Chapter One.
Thanks for the vote of confidence, and you are right, even though I have made my share of mistakes, I have never had an abortion nor would I ever have an abortion. Nor have I ever participated in any kind of debauchery or pornographic enterprise of any kind as some mental case implied last night in lieu of a coherent argument. As soon as I told him to prove it, he ran away and hid like the coward and liar that he is. So someone like me, who is pro-life, against same-sex marriage, pro second amendment and a social and fiscal conservative supports Rudy?
Quite simply, I don't want Hillary or Obama to win because if you think Rudy would be bad, Hillary or Obama would be horrible. If you think the pro life movement will lose ground with Rudy, think about what Hillary would do. If you think Rudy is for federal funding for some abortions, think about how much Hillary will expand federal funding beyond the existing laws. She will probably be more ambitious in this area than her husband was.
And if you think our military is suffering now from lack of a concise plan for victory and lack of funding, imagine what Hillary or Obama would do. We already know how Hillary despises the military.
I know full well that having a Democrat president and having Congress and the Senate in the hands of the Democrats will spell disaster for our military, the war on terror (since the Democrats don't even think we are in danger of another terrorist attack and the terrorists are just guys who feel threaten by our evil imperialist ways, and they are just defending themselves), for the pro-life movement (yes they'll be worse than Rudy), and for holding back same-sex marriage (which Rudy isn't in favor of despite the lies of his enemies).
Willfully allowing Hillary or Obama to rise to power (some of the Rudy opponents have already stated that they'll be voting for her if Rudy wins the nomination) to me represents turning my back on the troops, my country, and my fellow citizens - and I won't do it. Not me.
Why Rudy and not someone else? Because no one in the list of GOP candidates will be able to beat Hillary or Obama or even Edwards. Why? Because no one in the list has the name recognition, fame, respect and status as Rudy. You don't beat a somebody with a nobody, and the GOP field is filled with nobodies. That's why.
FR is a poor measure of the general electorate - it's much bigger than that, and most Americans aren't as nearly as socially conservative as we are here. However, Americans in general tend to be fiscal conservatives and social moderates, and that's why Rudy has a great chance of winning and beating the Democrats.
Rudy won't change my way of life and I won't be having an abortion. I'll be the same person whose values are unmoved by his presidency. I won't become an “abortionist” as some ignoramuses howl from the safety of their keyboards. Rudy won't change anyone into a monster unless that individual is a monster already. So my conscience is clear, and God knows that, and I love and trust God more than anything in the world.
LOL!! ;-)
I’m glad I made you laugh. LOL.
Since you respect the Amish so much (I do as well), can you imagine them voting for a pro-abortion guy like Rudy? Not a snowball chance in you know where.
I'm also laughing because I had to stop for a second and think about what I would post about him if I did hate him. LOL.
LOL, I don’t even want to imagine that!
Excellent.
AC
Thanks! :-)
All of these skits ( excluding the SNL appearance ) were done for charity.
THANK YOU, Spiff! Blackbird.
Obviously not. They also do not attempt to take over politics and instill their values on the greater society. To me they are true Christians because they distinguish what is in the domain of Caesar and what is in the domain of God.
They wish for religious freedom, nothing more. They do not put their hands out for government subsidies, nor do they try to use government as an instrument to close businesses they find repulsive, or attempt to steer government revenues in any particular direction as far as abortion and stem cells. They simply shun the things they oppose and try to lead by example, and pretty much stay out of politics, as Christ did. The religious right, on the other hand, has overreached, and now there is a tremendous backlash, to the extent that they are as much a hindrance to the party as a benefit.
I love the Amish because they are a living example that, if given freedom, people will thrive. It is only when government starts ripping people off and redistributing the wealth according to the whims of the majority that we get into trouble. In my experience, the religious right is not very interested in freedom. They were when they were struggling for influence. But between 2000-2006 they were intoxicated with power and overreached on a number of issues, especially intelligent design, which was one of the most embarrassing ideas the Republican Party has ever been associated with.
Bottom line: we need to get back to the idea of smaller, limited government. Not religious nanny government, and certainly not socialist nanny government. Constitutionally limited government. Obviously, Giuliani is a flawed vessel for such reform, but he is basically fiscally responsible, experienced at managing a complex governmental system, and a tough-as-nails leader. Given that socialism is permanently entrenched, and conservatism is on the ropes with the electorate, we really could not hope for more, regardless of the few issues upon we disagree.
No, mark me down as someone who thinks it is inappropriate to appear on gay porn shows, rather than the lie you just posted.
The Rudroids use the exact same words about toning it down, civility and decorum.
The have adopted the word rabid zealot, because Mrs. John Edwards used that term to describe the old man that was a rabid Republican living near her house.
Funny thing though, the man was a Rudy supporter. You just can't quit laughing at this. It has to be tough trying to defend a big liberal to conservatives.
To me that really doesn't matter. It is bizarre regardless of circumstances. I assume that NYers thought it hilarious, but I really don't care. I think it is at best undignified behavior for a chief executive.
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