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Probe finds Marines used excessive force on Afghan civilians
AP ^ | 4/11/07 | Robert Burns

Posted on 04/11/2007 11:31:19 AM PDT by murron

WASHINGTON - A U.S. military commander has determined that Marines accused of killing civilians after a suicide bombing in Afghanistan last month used excessive force, and he has referred the case for possible criminal inquiry, The Associated Press has learned. (Excerpt) http://www.yahoo.com/s/554327


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: afghan; marines
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This may be another Haditha in the making. My son is a part of this unit, but he's not talking.
1 posted on 04/11/2007 11:31:21 AM PDT by murron
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To: murron

I’m afraid I don’t know how to properly post a link, but if you go to the Yahoo home page, the link to this article can be found there.


2 posted on 04/11/2007 11:33:16 AM PDT by murron
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Here ya go.....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070411/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/marines_afghanistan


3 posted on 04/11/2007 11:35:10 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: RaceBannon; freema; RedRover; jazusamo; smoothsailing

Ping~~~~


4 posted on 04/11/2007 11:35:57 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (PISSANT for President '08 - NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: murron

Here we go again. The “perfumed princes” of careerist generals, ambitious JAGs and unscrupulous investigators and lying muslims now out to hamstring and second guess warriors under fire. And, still the White House cannot figure out why the war against terrorists isn’t going so well with the American public.


5 posted on 04/11/2007 11:38:10 AM PDT by JeeperFreeper
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To: murron

Oh, I think I’ll join the Border Patrol instead. No, wait...


6 posted on 04/11/2007 11:44:35 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: murron; Just A Nobody

God Bless your son and your family.

Being the NCIS is investigating this your son is smart not to talk to them unless he has an attorney.

Thanks for the ping, Justa.


7 posted on 04/11/2007 11:52:18 AM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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When your responding to an attack, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS EXCESSIVE FORCE!! If innocents are killed blame those that launched the attack. The goal of terrorists (which is who we are fighting) is to merely wreck havoc on everyone. Military leaders who ignore this should be canned. Semper Fi Marines.


8 posted on 04/11/2007 11:54:00 AM PDT by stumpy
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Our nation is at war and we are prosecuting our military for using excessive force against an enemy that has no qualms about blowing up infants, children, women and old men.

An enemy that routinely tortures and beheads civilians and would have no problem killing millions of unbelievers with nuclear weapons "WHEN" they obtain one.

Nothing as imbecilic as destroying those sworn to protect & defend, just for doing so!

9 posted on 04/11/2007 11:55:31 AM PDT by PISANO
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Makes ya wonder about things, doesn’t it!!!!!

http://www.etherzone.com/2006/stang063006.shtml
http://www.etherzone.com/2006/stang063006.shtml


10 posted on 04/11/2007 11:59:48 AM PDT by gunnyg
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This is absolutely unprecedented. Marines use the amount of force that seems reasonable and sufficient to them when they are under threat in the heat of battle. How can we expect them to do anything less?

In a situation like Haditha or the Afghan highway, we can either risk the lives of Marines or the lives of civilian shields. We can't minimize the risk to both.

I do not understand why our military is suddenly fighting terrorism as a law enforcement problem rather than as a war.

11 posted on 04/11/2007 12:00:37 PM PDT by RedRover (Defend Our Marines)
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I think you are right to worry. These NCIS deadbeats and back-biters who "leak" this stuff with impunity to their cultivated MSM cohorts should be marched in front of firing squads...but instead are given pats on the back.

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe's results have not been released.

So why is he talking? If they are not released...maybe there is a reason like they are not good "findings" at all.

The findings have been forwarded to Central Command, which has responsibility for U.S. military operations in the Middle East and Central Asia. The case has also been referred to the Naval Criminal Investigative Service for a broader criminal inquiry, the official said.

Another official, also speaking on condition of anonymity,

What was this other guy's excuse for blabbing?

... said the initial military investigation concluded that there was a "reasonable suspicion" that the Marines violated the rules for the use of deadly force, and that crimes, possibly including homicide, may have been committed in the aftermath of the convoy being struck by a car bomb.

Damn it all to heck. I REALLY would like to see these pencil-necks in NCIS who are clearly the blabbermouths...be tasked with rifle company duty in these hot zones. Let's see how many fire-fights they get in and see whether they feel like prosecuting themselves...

12 posted on 04/11/2007 12:05:45 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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SFW? Are we at war or not? If not, why are we there?


13 posted on 04/11/2007 12:06:26 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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And...”Bushwhacked!”

http://etherzone.com/2007/stang020907.shtml
http://etherzone.com/2007/stang020907.shtml


14 posted on 04/11/2007 12:10:08 PM PDT by gunnyg
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And, before anyone gets around to calling Marines “extremists”—let’s get that point established too!

http://lonestar.texas.net/~mikerod/Mindfield/extreme.html
http://lonestar.texas.net/~mikerod/Mindfield/extreme.html


15 posted on 04/11/2007 12:17:03 PM PDT by gunnyg
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We’re existentially incapable of using excessive force. We’re the Good Guys ™, so everything we do is good. Those who argue otherwise must be destroyed for their insufferable treason, ingratitude, self-loathing, or what-you-will. Anyway, destroy them.


16 posted on 04/11/2007 12:23:27 PM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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Isn’t the definition of war the application of excessive force to defeat an enemy?

I don’t understand the calibration of force on the ground when you can bomb the hell out of somebody from 30,000 feet.


17 posted on 04/11/2007 1:12:59 PM PDT by wildbill
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To: murron

Absolute Bullshit!!!!


18 posted on 04/11/2007 3:19:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8...down to 3..GWB, we hardly knew ye...)
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This is the the reason I don't support the "War on Terror."

The "War" label doesn't apply to what we are sending our young people to do. Which is to become targets while engaging in policing duties with their hands tied behind their backs.

Let me know when the Prez decides to get serious about conducting actual "Warfare", than maybe I'll reconsider my position.

19 posted on 04/11/2007 3:34:16 PM PDT by semaj (Just shoot the bastards! * Void where prohibited.)
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To: JeeperFreeper; Just A Nobody; 1stbn27; 2111USMC; 2nd Bn, 11th Mar; 68 grunt; A.A. Cunningham; ...

20 posted on 04/11/2007 6:52:46 PM PDT by freema (Marine FRiend, 1stCuz2xRemoved, Mom, Aunt, Sister, Friend, Wife, Daughter, Niece)
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