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To: HitmanLV
Sure is easy to spout off platitudes and moral posturing about this subject when one doesn't even have any kids, isn't it? Usually, when someone who has never raised kids tries to tell me how it's supposed to be done, I give them the finger and tell them to STFU.

You're pretty cavalier about using the power of the State to force an innocent man to lose sometimes up to a half-million dollars because some lying, unfaithful scumbag of a woman fingered him for something he didn't do, ya know that?

How would you like it if someone said you were guilty of a crime, but offered no evidence of your guilt, and the State went ahead and convicted you without even the possibility of a fair trial?

Me? I KNOW my boys are mine. They look like me, they sound like me, and they act like me. (Have pity on their mother, I know LOL. Vengeance is sweet...)

Still, that doesn't change the fact that I've paid for 2 of her cars and her house over the years. Often times living on generic Kroger-brand biscuits and freeze-dried rice to keep her off my back, too.

I'm just glad that my boys are grown now, and at long last, what's mine is mine.

258 posted on 04/10/2007 4:23:20 PM PDT by FierceDraka ("I am not a number, I am a free man!" - Prisoner Number Six)
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To: FierceDraka
Sure is easy to spout off platitudes and moral posturing about this subject when one doesn't even have any kids, isn't it? Usually, when someone who has never raised kids tries to tell me how it's supposed to be done, I give them the finger and tell them to STFU.

Your insight is strangely misplaced, since I haven't offered any thoughts at all about how to raise a child. 

You're pretty cavalier about using the power of the State to force an innocent man to lose sometimes up to a half-million dollars because some lying, unfaithful scumbag of a woman fingered him for something he didn't do, ya know that?

We're not talking crimes here - innocence or guilt aren't meaningful factors.  the issues are 1. is the man the biological father of the child, and 2. has the man cultivated a personal relationship with the child.  

Whether his wife was a scumbag is peripheral to the policy concern at issue here.  If he isn't the biodad and hasn't developed a parent-child relationship with the child, he is off the hook.  If he isn't the biodad and has developed a parent-child relationship with the child, then he shouldn't harm the child more because of some self-pitying weak desire to just walk away from the child. 

No option in this situation is good.  Somebody is going to get burned.  Better the adult male, sorry if that bothers you.  It doesn't bother me, and I'd want to be held to the same standard if I were in that situation.

How would you like it if someone said you were guilty of a crime, but offered no evidence of your guilt, and the State went ahead and convicted you without even the possibility of a fair trial?

I wouldn't like it.  But this isn't a crime, its an entirely civil matter. 

Me? I KNOW my boys are mine. They look like me, they sound like me, and they act like me. (Have pity on their mother, I know LOL. Vengeance is sweet...)

God bless, and very good! ;-) 

Still, that doesn't change the fact that I've paid for 2 of her cars and her house over the years. Often times living on generic Kroger-brand biscuits and freeze-dried rice to keep her off my back, too.

I like Kroger generic stuff.  Again, very good. 

I'm just glad that my boys are grown now, and at long last, what's mine is mine.

Very good, and I am happy for you, but as charming as it is, it doesn't have much to do with what we are discussing. 

281 posted on 04/10/2007 4:41:48 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do suck seed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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