[AaronInCarolina]

Still want to say "It's not happening?" If so, take it up with Dr. Lindzen.

Cogitator, when you reference Dr. Lindzen, I know something is amiss. You know enough about Dr. Lindzen, I am quite sure, to know that he meant that some amount of warming as a result of increasing GHG's is undeniable, but not the main force behind the recent warming. One can light a match in the Superdome, and it is indisputable that such an act will produce some finite increase in warmth of the atmosphere within the Superdome. Whether that increase will be felt by people within the Superdome is another question entirely.

[SteamShovel]

he meant that some amount of warming as a result of increasing GHG's is undeniable, but not the main force behind the recent warming. One can light a match in the Superdome, and it is indisputable that such an act will produce some finite increase in warmth of the atmosphere within the Superdome. Whether that increase will be felt by people within the Superdome is another question entirely.

That nails the issue.

The weight of an ant will undeniably make the weight on an elephant's feet heavier, but the elephant isn't going to notice and will move along on his own in his own way.

Attempting to turn back global warming will be like trying to empty the ocean with a spoon. It is not only futile, but the attempt can only happen if forced down the free world's throat by removing freedom and instituting socialism.

[cogitator]

Lindzen says warming is happening and that mankind's fossil fuel emissions are a component of the warming. According to the blanket statement I addressed, he'd be classed as a liar along with everyone else that is far less skeptical and trying to maintain a skeptical face. And that's extreme.

And take a look at this plot, just posted in another thread:

he meant that some amount of warming as a result of increasing GHG's is undeniable, but not the main force behind the recent warming.

Unfortunately, Dr. Lindzen's skepticism is erroneous.

The blue band is the modelled global temperature with only natural forcings. The red band includes anthropogenic forcing. The black line is the observed temperature record.