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To: listenhillary
Researchers have been unable to explain this discrepancy,” he points out.

Lindzen's statement is a gloss. Sulfate aerosol forcing explains the majority of the cooling. A small increase in solar output is cited for part of the warming (anthropogenic GHGs for the other part) for the early century warming.

134 posted on 04/10/2007 12:12:29 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
You really have no problems with IPCC ‘scientists’ telling the public that 130 million people in Asia will be displaced by 2050, with potentially catastrophic problems in Africa which includes wiping out their entire staple crops altogether and water shortages for between 75 to 250 million people? Predictions that floods, fires, droughts, heat waves, storms, hurricanes are are going to more frequent and more severe? You really believe that is what the science is telling us? I am 'extreme' for calling these scientists out as liars, but they are not extreme? They issue all these fear-mongering press releases as if they are virtual certainities and are actually upset that government officials made them tone down their outrageous rhetoric.
136 posted on 04/10/2007 12:35:58 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: cogitator; listenhillary
Sulfate aerosol forcing explains the majority of the cooling.

Bull

1) Most of the cooling between 1940-1976 occurred between 1945-1950 when most of the world was recovering from WWII

and between 1950-1960 when everything ramped up the world warmed slightly only to again fall. Sorry but there's no consistent pattern there to suggest sulfate aerosols or any other pollutant had anything to do with the cooling

2) While we in the US reduced Sulfate Aerosols since the 1940's-1970's, back then China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, etc weren't as industrialized as they are today, so there are actually more "sulphate aerosols" being released today in the world then there was back then when it was basically just us,

Here see for yourself

This photo was taken by NASA in 2001, of Aerosol pollution over Northern India and Bangladesh

Thick aerosols blanket much of China's Huang He, or Yellow River, in this true-color MODIS image from October 22, 2001

Nothing we released back then approached those levels, yet the Earth isn't cooling

167 posted on 04/11/2007 2:16:56 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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