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Arrest prompts Border Patrol case questions
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 5, 2007 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 04/09/2007 10:25:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

More claims brought closer to witness in Ramos-Compean prosecution

An arrest in a drug case involving thousands of pounds of marijuana brought from Mexico into the U.S. is raising anew questions about the prosecution of former Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who shot at a fleeing drug smuggler in a confrontation in 2005, then were convicted for that shooting and now are serving prison terms of 11 and 12 years.

According to authorities, Cipriano Ortiz-Hernandez, suspected of running a Texas "stash house" where multiple loads of marijuana from Mexico were delivered into the United States, has been arrested and is being held pending trial.

As WND has reported, Cipriano Ortiz-Hernandez already was under indictment on federal drug charges stemming from about 5,000 pounds of marijuana allegedly delivered to his home, mostly in 2005.

Ortiz-Hernandez also has identified Ramos-Compean case witness Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila as the man who delivered 750 pounds of marijuana to that location in October 2005 – while Aldrete-Davila was under a grant of immunity for an earlier drug smuggling operation when he encountered Ramos and Compean, and ended up with a bullet wound.

Those agents chased Aldrete-Davila while he was trying to smuggle a load of hundreds of pounds of drugs into the United States in February 2005, and Aldrete-Davila was injured when the officers fired at him.

He later was granted immunity for that episode by federal prosecutors, and returned to the United States to give testimony that helped convict the border agents, who now are in prison. However, during his testimony, he portrayed himself as someone who had tried to smuggle drugs only the one time because of his financial situation, and the jury never was told that he had been implicated in the second smuggling operation.

"What is the government going to do now?" Joe Loya, father-in-law of Ramos, asked WND. "According to the criminal complaints WND has already published, Ortiz-Hernandez has admitted being involved with Aldrete-Davila in the second drug incident."

"Now the government is in a dilemma,” Loya said. "Is the government going to give Aldrete-Davila immunity again? If the government indicts Aldrete-Davila, they are going to have to admit that prosecutor U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton allowed Aldrete-Davila to lie in the Ramos and Compean trial when Aldrete-Davila said he was not a professional drug smuggler."

"I'll bet you that Ortiz-Hernandez will put the finger on Aldrete-Davila, just like he did in October 2005 when DEA and Border Patrol first interviewed Ortiz-Hernandez at the Fabens, Texas, Border Patrol Station," Loya told WND.

Sutton's office said because of "ongoing investigations regarding this matter," officials couldn't comment.

"However, we have been clear and unambiguous, Aldrete received immunity only for offenses which occurred on Feb. 17, 2005, and has no immunity or protection for any other crimes that he may have committed. As we have said many times, this office will pursue criminal charges where there is prosecutable criminal activity and competent evidence to prove it," the statement said.

"This statement sounds like we're going to be told next that Sutton's office doesn't have enough information to prosecute Aldrete-Davila for the October 23, 2005, offense Ortiz-Hernandez is charged with committing," Loya said. "Why don't we just send Sutton copies of the Department of Homeland Security, Drug Enforcement Agency, and U.S. District Court criminal complaints we have that substantiate Aldrete-Davila's involvement. How is Sutton going to explain those documents away?"

WND has reported that a Department of Homeland Security investigative report filed by Special Agent Christopher Sanchez on Nov. 21, 2005, documents that Ortiz-Hernandez identified Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila was the person who drove the 750 pounds of marijuana to Ortiz-Hernandez's safe house on October 23, 2005.

WND also has published criminal complaints filed in U.S. District Court on March 2 and March 6, 2007, that provide corroboration that Aldrete-Davila was the person who delivered 752.8 pounds of marijuana in a Ford Astro van to Ortiz-Hernandez's home in Clint, Texas, Oct. 23, 2005.

"Let's hope the government investigates the drug smugglers surrounding Ortiz-Hernandez more than they did in the Ramos-Compean case," Loya said. "In Ramos and Compean's case nobody ever investigated the cell phone Aldrete-Davila left in the drug van. We still don't know even today where that cell phone is."

WND has obtained a March 18, 2005, U.S. District Court order of detention issued by U.S. Magistrate Judge Norbert J. Garney mandating that Ortiz-Hernandez remain in custody pending trial because he is a flight risk.

The detention order reads that the preponderance of evidence establishes that "the defendant (Ortiz-Hernandez), a citizen of Mexico, without legal permission to remain in the United States, was arrested for conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute over 1000 kilograms of marijuana."

The detention order noted that Ortiz-Hernandez "has strong familial ties to Mexico and has a criminal history which includes a history of failure to appear."

"Now that Ortiz-Hernandez has been arrested and indicted, Ramos and Compean should be released immediately," Loya added. "If Sutton had told the jury about this second October load, the government's case would have been thrown out the window. How would any jury convict Ramos and Compean if the jury knew that Aldrete-Davila, the government's chief witness, was a liar?"

"What the documents show is that Sutton's office let Ortiz-Hernandez operate his safe house for two years after he was first busted for drugs in March 2004," Loya said. "Now it's three years since March 2004 and Sutton is finally getting around to prosecuting him. How many years are we going to have to wait for Sutton to prosecute Aldrete-Davila? How many more loads of drugs does Aldrete-Davila have to bring across the border before Sutton does anything?"

"WND has reported that Ortiz-Hernandez was indicted on March 28, 2007, on three counts of federal criminal drug charges.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2ndload; aliens; borderagents; borderpatrol; ciprianoortiz; compean; drugs; immigrantlist; octoberload; ramos
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1 posted on 04/09/2007 10:25:33 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: Ladycalif; chicagolady; Gelato; Delphinium

ping...


2 posted on 04/09/2007 10:26:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
There is another case like this that involved Stehanie Moore. She was a cop in maryland. Her police dog bit an illegal in the course of an arrest. Five years later she was thrown in jail for hard time because her police dog bit the illegal.

The story sounds perposterous. But its true.
3 posted on 04/09/2007 10:40:45 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: EternalVigilance

Maybe that’ll teach those ICE agents to mess around with CIA drug smugglers.


4 posted on 04/09/2007 10:43:05 AM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: EternalVigilance

Duncan Hunter on the Border Patrol


5 posted on 04/09/2007 10:45:07 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: calcowgirl

Ping


6 posted on 04/09/2007 11:10:40 AM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: EternalVigilance

If this were a TV mystery, it would turn out that the prosecutor was actually taking bug buck$ under the table for “keeping things cool” for the smugglers.


7 posted on 04/09/2007 11:16:10 AM PDT by capt. norm (Be thankful we're not getting all the government we're paying for.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I don’t think the Border Patrol agents should be in jail, but having said that, I do not see the relevance of whether the witness lied about being a repeat drug importer. As I understand it, the principle under which they were convicted was that law enforcement officers are not justified in using potentially deadly force against someone who is fleeing from them, but only to protect themselves and others from probable use of force by the suspect. Personally, I disagree with that principle and think that law enforcement officers should be able to use force to prevent a suspect from escaping, but that’s not the law as it currently stands. If it was established that they shot a fleeing suspect, it isn’t really relevant whether the suspect claimed to be a first time offender when he was actually a career criminal. It impeaches the suspect as a witness, but I’m assuming the DA had independent evidence that they had shot at someone who posed no danger.


8 posted on 04/09/2007 11:30:51 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: Stirner

Yes nevermind all of the other testimony from other Border Patrol agents who testified against these two. Maybe next weeks story will be that the judge once got a parking ticket.


9 posted on 04/09/2007 11:44:18 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: EternalVigilance; 1rudeboy
Ortiz-Hernandez also has identified Ramos-Compean case witness Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila as the man who delivered 750 pounds of marijuana to that location in October 2005

Well, obviously, we have to believe this drug smuggler and disbelieve the other drug smuggler.

How does this impact the cover up of the shooting? Never mind.

10 posted on 04/09/2007 11:50:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: ckilmer

I’ve read about this one as well...

Another truely over-the-top prosecution of a decorated law enforcement officer...

If she had been really negligent in the use of the police dog, it would have been handled there on the spot...But the rush to beat the deadline to get in the paperwork to the grand jury to indict her was absolutely flagrant in its intent...They waited till the day before it would have been negated by the statute of limitations before rushing to the grand jury with the “evidence”...

All of it being BS...


11 posted on 04/09/2007 11:53:16 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: ckilmer
Well your lack of information about poor Stephanie is troubling. http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/mohr.asp

Seems she had a penchant for letting her dog maul people for the sport of it.

12 posted on 04/09/2007 11:57:03 AM PDT by rednesss
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To: rednesss

Well your lack of information about poor Stephanie is troubling. http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/mohr.asp

Seems she had a penchant for letting her dog maul people for the sport of it.
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you should actually take the trouble to read the contents of the links you post. That link went to plaintive plea on Mohr’s part because of the terrible injustice she has been subjected to.


13 posted on 04/09/2007 12:07:52 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Stirner
I don’t think the Border Patrol agents should be in jail, but having said that, I do not see the relevance of whether the witness lied about being a repeat drug importer. As I understand it, the principle under which they were convicted was that law enforcement officers are not justified in using potentially deadly force against someone who is fleeing from them, but only to protect themselves and others from probable use of force by the suspect. Personally, I disagree with that principle and think that law enforcement officers should be able to use force to prevent a suspect from escaping, but that’s not the law as it currently stands. If it was established that they shot a fleeing suspect,it isn’t really relevant whether the suspect claimed to be a first time offender when he was actually a career criminal. It impeaches the suspect as a witness, but I’m assuming the DA had independent evidence that they had shot at someone who posed no danger.

The DA went to Mexico himself and had to wait till the drug runner completed his latest endeavour before offering him this immunity deal to testify against the BP agents...It IS relevant in the fact that anyones prior criminal activity and testimony IS germane to this case...Whether he lied about it or not...

This was a pure railroading if there ever was one...And the government knows this...

If this other guy can prove there were abuses in the prosecution of the BP agents, then yes they need to be released right this second...

Poor execution of justice, is not proper justice...

Otherwise, I would not blame a single BP agent to just sit up on a hilltop and sip ice tea and watch the goobers walk right by...



14 posted on 04/09/2007 12:07:53 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: ckilmer

Read down further.


15 posted on 04/09/2007 12:09:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

yeah you’re right. she did have a penchant for loosing the dog on perps.


16 posted on 04/09/2007 12:25:31 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: stevie_d_64

“Poor execution of justice, is not proper justice...”

I agree with you on that, and you know a lot more about the details of this case than I do. If the lying witness’ testimony was crucial to making the case, then showing that he lied should get the conviction reversed. I thought the DA had independent evidence about shooting the fleeing suspect.


17 posted on 04/09/2007 12:39:03 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: Stirner
You’re absolutely right about this but the facts won’t matter to those who are using this incident to push their border security agenda.

Whether or not OVD had 100 mule loads under his belt is immaterial to whether the shoot that day was good. R&C had no knowledge at the time whether OVD was either a drug runner or just someone who had a couple beers at work and tried to outrun the BP because he had an outstanding traffic ticket.

All that matters is what happened between when OVD took off for the border and when Ramos shot him. Did the BPA have justified cause to shoot and kill him (and they testified they were shooting to kill)? Was OVD an immediate threat to the BPA or to the public that necessitated taking him down?

That is the question. Now, if you believe the “black shiny object” story, than you have reason to believe the shoot was good, if you don’t (like the jury and just about anybody who read the transcripts), then it was a bad shoot and they BPA need to be disciplined.

Whether or not that means going to jail or just losing their BP jobs, I don’t know. But you just can’t allow LEO’s to excuse any shooting, no matter how questionable, by allowing them to claim “He had a black shiny object in his hand”.

Next time it could be you or son or daughter coming home from a party a little tipsy, who speeds away from a cop because you are not thinking clearly.

This is about allowing police state tactics against citizens, guilty or innocent.

And those of you who publicly/privately justify it because he was an illegal or a Mexican (as has been stated on these threads many times), you need to take a good look at your yourself.

OVD at the time had not been convicted of any crimes. We still live in a society that believes in innocent until proved guilty. One you allow any LEO to become judge and jury dispensing justice and the end of their gun, we are half way to being a totalitarian state.

You might think this time it is okay because it was only a drug mule, an illegal, a Mexican. Who will it be next time? Either we protect our civil liberties for everyone, even the most despised in society, or they can’t be protected for anyone.

18 posted on 04/09/2007 1:16:25 PM PDT by Bob J (nks)
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To: stevie_d_64
All of this talk of LEOs being railroaded makes me believe even more that people are correct to be concerned with the Patriot Act. If the LEOs are targets of malicious prosecution then everyday citizens need every protection of their rights that they can get. Especially since the FBI has admitted to overstepping its bounds.
19 posted on 04/09/2007 2:05:02 PM PDT by CJ-50
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To: ckilmer
I did take the trouble to read the snopes article, it lists 4 different occasions where she used questionable tactics with the K9. 3 were settled out of court for undisclosed amounts, read big. Or maybe you think our police should act like these guys...

This guy looks like he's about to poop himself.

20 posted on 04/09/2007 2:15:06 PM PDT by rednesss
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