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Queer IQ: The Gay Couple's Advantage (same sex partners are more honest, affectionate)
Psychology Today ^ | 04/09/07 | Kaja Perina

Posted on 04/09/2007 7:44:05 AM PDT by presidio9

"There will always be a battle between the sexes because men and women want different things," quipped comedian George Burns. "Men want women and women want men." But when men want men and women want women, each couple can circumvent treacherous romantic terrain because partners more closely share sexual appetites and mind-reading abilities than do heterosexual pairs.

Most lesbians don't fear rapacious women and gay men need not always soft-peddle their sexual predilections. On balance, gays and lesbians understand their partners' bodies and biases with a certainty that many a clueless "breeder" yearns for. "Homosexuality could be viewed in some respects as the triumph of the individual's mating intelligence over the gonads' evolutionary interests," argues Geoffrey Miller.

The result is that gay relationships are less mired in deception and perhaps even less prone to friction, according to multiple studies.

"If two guys in a relationship are on the same wavelength, it's going to be very hard for them to deceive one another about their motives, their lusts, their philandering. Whereas between the sexes, each sex presents a socially acceptable form of masculinity or femininity that is reassuring to the other person but not particularly accurate," says Miller.

Romantic lies are, after all, a sort of Rosetta stone on which gender differences are coyly inscribed. Straight men lie about their commitment to the relationship and about their resources, finds psychologist Maureen O'Sullivan. They are also more likely to lie to keep their partner from getting angry at them, a small but telling testament to the wrath of women. Women, in contrast, lie to flatter a man's sense of self and to downplay their interest in other men.

Gay and lesbian couples are not only more honest with one another, they are also more likely to exhibit affection and humor in negotiating relationship stressors, according to John Gottman, emeritus professor of psychology at the University of Washington. Gottman compared conflict discussions in gay and straight couples and found that "gays and lesbians talked explicitly about sex and monogamy. Those topics don't come up in 31 years of studying heterosexual couples, who are uptight in discussing sex. In their conversations, you really don't know what they're talking about."

Whether a same-sex edge to mating intelligence makes for longer unions is unclear. Among the couples Gottman studied, the projected break-up rate for homosexuals, over a four-decade span, is a grim 64 percent (gay men are far more likely to split than are lesbians). The 40-year divorce rate for straight couples in first marriages is 67 percent. To amend George Burns: If you wait long enough, every couple wants different things.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 42yrlifeexpectancy; celebrateperversity; homosexualagenda; softpeddle
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To: AppyPappy
It has lengthened now.

I doubt it. Since we know for an indisputable fact that people are born gay, but we can't know for certian who is or is not gay until some time around puberty, any life expectacy study of fairies omits those that die before sharing their gayness with the world (ie during childhood). Therefore, all gay life expectancy studies are skewed towards the high end. If more faggots are wearing raincoats before playing in the mud these days, then perhaps the 42yr figure has finnaly become a realistic measure.

21 posted on 04/09/2007 7:58:43 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Oh Jethuth Chritht

22 posted on 04/09/2007 7:59:19 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: presidio9

There is a gay guy who live a few doors down from me, and in 6 years I have been there he has been through 4 live in loves of his life.


23 posted on 04/09/2007 8:00:31 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Always Right
That settles it, we should all be gay. Thanks.

What can I say?......

24 posted on 04/09/2007 8:01:59 AM PDT by Calusa ("Actually, we bogeyed the 17th hole and picked up on the 18th."L. Graham/Novak)
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To: presidio9

No barf alert?


25 posted on 04/09/2007 8:02:32 AM PDT by Calusa ("Actually, we bogeyed the 17th hole and picked up on the 18th."L. Graham/Novak)
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To: presidio9

so a gay couple is better than a straight one?


26 posted on 04/09/2007 8:06:31 AM PDT by Ancient Drive
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To: presidio9

“On balance, gays and lesbians understand their partners’ bodies and biases with a certainty that many a clueless “breeder” yearns for. “Homosexuality could be viewed in some respects as the triumph of the individual’s mating intelligence over the gonads’ evolutionary interests,” argues Geoffrey Miller.”

Now there’s a foundation statement for future societies; be gay!, chase your cares away.


27 posted on 04/09/2007 8:07:10 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Talk to an life insurance actuarians. They take life expedency data by age, sex, lifestyle and etc, determine the risks and required premiums for the risks for insurance companies. They will tell you that gays (even excluding AIDS) in general have a shorter life span (suicide, alcohol, overeating, high risk behavior) and tend to die in their 50’s. Denmark has the longest history of gay marriage and a detailed comparison of life expectancy of known gay couples versus heterosexual couples. Average life of gay couples is late 50’s, average life of normal couples is about 78 years old. They already factored out AIDS. Data close to what the insurance company actuaries have compiled. What they do in the privacy of their homes is their business, but when they try to introduce this short life span lifestyle to my children as an healthy alternative, I have a problem. If children cannot be exposed to cigarettes in school due to health reasons, sodomy should also be excluded and discouraged for the same reasons.


28 posted on 04/09/2007 8:07:18 AM PDT by Fee
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To: presidio9

Not all that long ago homosexuality was classified as a mental illness...now this drivel is what’s supposed to pass as psychology?


29 posted on 04/09/2007 8:07:19 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: presidio9

An article in “psychology today” refering to Heterosexuals as “breeders” out to tell you that the publication has about as much to do with legitimate science of psychology as Playboy does with intellectual enlightenment.


30 posted on 04/09/2007 8:11:49 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: presidio9

(same sex partners are more honest, affectionate)

Let’s all become gay!!! Crime would go away and everybody would be kind and loving and we could all sing Kumbaya /s


31 posted on 04/09/2007 8:11:53 AM PDT by Jeffrey_D. (Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: presidio9

The assult will never end until it is once again not “cool” to be a homo.


32 posted on 04/09/2007 8:12:03 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: highlander_UW

It is a mental illness, absolutely NO study has ever countered the DSM’s classification of Homosexuality, particularly male homosexuality as a mental illness. It was removed from the DSM because of politics, not because of science.


34 posted on 04/09/2007 8:13:22 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: relictele; Psycho_Bunny
Psychology Today was a PC pile of dreck 20 years ago and it hasn’t changed.

The big error that the author and the psychologists both make is in assuming that sex is the main reason why all couples get together and stay together. While, I would agree that this certainly holds true for gay couples, it is far less so for heterosexual ones. Successful normal (heterosexual) couples stay together because sex is only a part of many factors of a fruitful relationship.

35 posted on 04/09/2007 8:15:41 AM PDT by presidio9 (Suspended for posting an article about Scalia and Arthur Miller arguing at SCOTUS. Seriously.)
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To: presidio9
I have news for this jackass. If it were not for clueless "breeders," none of these wonderful lesbian and homosexual couples she admires so much would even exist.
36 posted on 04/09/2007 8:17:45 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: presidio9

Remind me....where is the study that proves that people are born gay? How do we know this is an undisputable fact?


37 posted on 04/09/2007 8:20:42 AM PDT by katielou828
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To: presidio9

Glad I wasted 5 minutes of my lunch break reading this. NOT.


38 posted on 04/09/2007 8:21:28 AM PDT by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: Lucius Vorenus

I worked at a now defunct large MA based computer company on a shift where there was a large number of Lesbian Techs and Assemblers. They’d come in on Monday morning looking like they had run into the 1974 Philadelpia Flyers and it was always over a paranoia of someone taking their girlfriends. And Oh Boy, if one of them got caught talking too close to a guy.


39 posted on 04/09/2007 8:21:38 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: presidio9

Well, well. Isn’t “science” great!


40 posted on 04/09/2007 8:22:12 AM PDT by dr_who_2
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