[Old Airplane Driver]

Hey Nathan -

First, I suggest you read the article carefully and in its entirety. Second, I suggest that you do a little research on just who Dr. Lindzen is. To give you a starting point, he will be found in the M.I.T. directory as an Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science. For 20 years, he has been standing up to the "Flat Earth Society" charlatans like Ozone Al with reasoned and science-based arguments.

Your rant does our side no good, as you seem to confuse Dr. Lindzen with the U.N. and the Islamists all in one incoherent blast. I can assure you that Dr. Lindzen is beholden to neither. Dr. Lindzen is a man of science and is not swayed by any political agenda. I also think he would be outraged by your comments on Islamist influence, as much of his family was killed in the Holocaust.

It is you who is wrong about greenhouse gasses; they are very real and water vapor is the most important of them. No atmospheric scientist denies what can be objectively proven. What is at issue is how much effect these gasses really have and the exact mechanisms of their behaviors. The Ozone Al camp uses a simplistic model of an exquisitely complex three-dimensional fluid dynamic system, while Dr. Lindzen has studied the problem in considerably more detail. I have read several of his technical papers and I assure you that he probably has more knowledge on this subject than any other human on the planet.

Finally, I just can't resist taking a cheap shot worthy of your ad hominem attack. You really need to go back the high school and learn the proper use of the apostrophe.

Just for the record, I do have an MIT education and I regard Dr. Lindzen as one of the foremost authorities in the current discussion about "global warming". He is very much an ally in this fight and his credentials are impeccable.

[miliantnutcase]

I’ll laugh when we find out how algore will try to marginalize this guy.

[spinestein]

An excellent post. It does us no good to fight the pseudoscience that is the political aspect of the global warming issue by throwing kook talk at it. This statement is particularly important:

[What is at issue is how much effect these gasses really have and the exact mechanisms of their behaviors. The Ozone Al camp uses a simplistic model of an exquisitely complex three-dimensional fluid dynamic system...]

It’s difficult at best to get the public at large to understand the nature of process of science and know how to determine the reliability of its predictions. The failure to do this always leads to opportunistic charlatans selling bunk ideas to the public in exchange for money or power (or both).

[marvlus]

Thank you for putting Nathan in his place. We don’t need zealots like him fighting for our beliefs and cause.

[WOSG]

“Your rant does our side no good, as you seem to confuse Dr. Lindzen with the U.N. and the Islamists all in one incoherent blast. I can assure you that Dr. Lindzen is beholden to neither. Dr. Lindzen is a man of science and is not swayed by any political agenda. I also think he would be outraged by your comments on Islamist influence, as much of his family was killed in the Holocaust.

It is you who is wrong about greenhouse gasses; they are very real and water vapor is the most important of them. No atmospheric scientist denies what can be objectively proven. What is at issue is how much effect these gasses really have and the exact mechanisms of their behaviors. The Ozone Al camp uses a simplistic model of an exquisitely complex three-dimensional fluid dynamic system, while Dr. Lindzen has studied the problem in considerably more detail. I have read several of his technical papers and I assure you that he probably has more knowledge on this subject than any other human on the planet.”

Here hear and well said.

[dirtboy]

There was a series of articles a few months back about global warming skeptics. Does anyone have a link to those or recall where they came from (I think they were in a UK paper).