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Earth's Grim Future : UN report says poor will suffer most
Winnipeg Sun ^ | Sat, April 7, 2007 | SETH BORENSTEIN

Posted on 04/08/2007 12:03:42 AM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Red Steel

Poor will suffer most. Especially women, children, and minorities. Thanks, U.N.


41 posted on 04/08/2007 2:46:46 AM PDT by Silly (plasticpie.com)
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To: libs_kma

That’s giving the UN credit for planning ahead...I’m sure they expect the poor to always be with us (it’s probably the only Biblical teaching they agree with).


42 posted on 04/08/2007 3:12:16 AM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Red Steel

The article is very surprising. I thought that the rich would suffer the most. Isn’t that why they become rich? So that they can suffer.


43 posted on 04/08/2007 4:02:30 AM PDT by djpg
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To: Red Steel

Hmmm...

Pollution... “at the fault of corporations”

Population explostions (historically a sign of a wealthy and healthy society) ... Wait, what was that word? Wealthy? oh, hell no!

Nuclear power... a cheap way to give people a good shot at living a better life.

Ozone depletion... again a problem stemming from corporations.

Y2K... Bill Gates was the best man to blame before Bush came to office.


If it has to do with taking out the people who earn money, they point blame. If it has to raise the poor from their low quality of life, it detracts from the message of “The poor are suffering, and only we can save them”


44 posted on 04/08/2007 4:04:37 AM PDT by MacDorcha (In Theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is.)
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To: Red Steel; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
What will really hurt the poor are those carbon offsets that the likes of Al Gore use to salve their consciences They involve buying up land in the third world and removing it from the affected nations' economies as potential for development.

Thereby they condemn their people to continued beast drafted,scratch, subsistence agriculture and impair the possibility to develop a modern mixed economy.

And it won't work. Some day the leaders of those countries are going to say "to hell with you and the horse you rode in on".

They will take back the land and natural resources. They will again farm the veld with machinery and artificial fertilizer.

They will again flood the ostensible carbon dioxide absorbing ecosystem by impounding water for irrigation and electrical generation.

They will again build power plants and factories and burn fossil fuels while they are waiting for their uranium enrichment facilities to come on line.

Then where will Al Gore look to offset his carbon footprint? A carbon footprint that is twenty times the personal average for a citizen of a developed country, let alone the average for the poor nations onto which he had been thrusting the burden of his lifestyle decisions.

45 posted on 04/08/2007 4:05:56 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Red Steel
UN report says poor will suffer most unless measures taken to cut greenhouse gases

(HAD IT Politically Incorrect statement follows.)

Good. The poor contribute nothing. They vote for every every would-be tyrant who comes along and offers to steal my money. They buy the lies of Socialism, vote Democrat, and loot and plunder. They cause wars and spread famine. They create squirming pullulating pest-holes of suffering, such as the continent of Africa and North Korea. They are poor for a reason, and I am finally sick of them being entitled to everything a contributor is.

"Global warming" would assure longer growing seasons and better crop yields... Assuming the so-called "Poor" stop eating their seed corn, waiting for handouts and actually plant something.

46 posted on 04/08/2007 4:20:52 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: Red Steel

“The poorest of the poor are going to be the worst hit”,

DUH! the poorest of the poor are always going to be the worst hit in any circumstances.


47 posted on 04/08/2007 4:21:16 AM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: Red Steel

It’s Y2K all over again!


48 posted on 04/08/2007 5:02:23 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Someone who is smart but not enough to become wise is essentially an idiot savant.)
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To: Red Steel
An increase of just 1 C could mean "up to 30% of the species at risk of extinction."

Where do they get these statistics? And what does "at risk of extinction" mean? You and I are "at risk" each time we leave the house. If something can't endure a 1C degree change, perhaps it's just nature thinning the herd.

49 posted on 04/08/2007 5:46:53 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Red Steel

I won’t read the original report, but I gather there must be good things that will happen as well if all of this were to come to pass. I wonder how much the report touches on the good things that will happen. Or is it all scaremongering?


50 posted on 04/08/2007 5:49:35 AM PDT by steveyp (Homeschool Teacher - Science and Math)
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To: Red Steel
...UN report says poor will suffer most

This is supposed to be new? "The Poor" always suffer more than "The Rich". It has always been, and will always be - "The Poor" will always be with us, not just because the Christ said so, but because "The Poor" are defined as a percentage of the population. Most of "The Poor" in the USA have cars, decent living, TVs, air conditioning, food, medical care ...

51 posted on 04/08/2007 5:53:30 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Red Steel
More evidence that the real home of the communists in the world today is the environmentalism/United Nations.

Let us all salute the One World Government.


52 posted on 04/08/2007 5:56:13 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: Gorzaloon
Good. The poor contribute nothing.

Wow...that took guts!

I used to give a lecture years ago to college freshmen where I said I could end poverty (at that time, defined as $9,600 for a family of four) overnight. Their response: "Really? How?"

My response: "Simple. Line up everyone who makes less than $9,600 and shoot them."

After the shock wore off, I'd ask them how the person who made $9,601 felt. The students would admit they felt pretty lucky. Then I told them that, given a little time, that group would start complaining about being "poor". I'd go on to point out that, unless you had a perfectly-even distribution of income, someone is always going to view themselves as "poor". We'd conclude by pointing out that a perfectly-even distribution of income is pure communism and has never truly existed other than as a social experiment (e.g., New Harmony, Owenism, etc.). You simply can't define away the poor in society, which is why Johnson's War on Poverty was doomed from the start. I'd also mention the disincentive effects of a perfectly-even distribution of income.

In today's context, the poor are often poor for a reason, but few gov'ts or politicians want to address those issues, since they are usually long run solutions for which they can't get the credit and, hence, have no interest in pursuing.

53 posted on 04/08/2007 5:59:24 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Red Steel

Is it or is it not a truism, that everything we here from lefties is generally opposite of what they say. They also accuse others of doing what they do. It’s bizzaro world.

In that light, I suspect that it’s the Rich, specifically, the Rich in the USA who are going to suffer the most, irrespective of any real or fantasy climate variation.


54 posted on 04/08/2007 6:00:19 AM PDT by Malsua
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To: Paleo Conservative

if you could convince Libs its Euthanasia they might go for it! .
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as long as the poor you refer to are white conservative southerners.


55 posted on 04/08/2007 6:05:52 AM PDT by omega4179 (Boycott Target 2007)
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To: Screamname

(Do ants burp?)

Only when it’s ‘Chili Night’ in the Ant Mess Hall. ;)


56 posted on 04/08/2007 6:11:53 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: dasboot

“...Over-fishing
Guns

Bird Flu

EM fields from electric towers

Aids

Asteroid Impact

Head-rot from cell phones

Peanuts

Christians

Men

Deforestation

Mold in houses

Television

Barney the Purple Dinosaur [should be #1]”

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57 posted on 04/08/2007 6:22:44 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Communism is legalized corruption by the elite.)
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To: Red Steel

BRING IT ON


58 posted on 04/08/2007 6:24:56 AM PDT by zwerni (it's the end of the world as we know it...)
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To: econjack
In today's context, the poor are often poor for a reason, but few gov'ts or politicians want to address those issues, since they are usually long run solutions for which they can't get the credit and, hence, have no interest in pursuing.

I have often heard it said that if all wealth were evenly redistributed, in some time frame, the same people would be rich and the same people would be poor.

I am tired of "The Poor" being exploited by tyrants. The Poor never get their share after the Great Revolution, anyway. They are merely being used.

Besides, in this country, it is a non-issue. Observe the people using Food Stamps. They are often obese. They do have free healthcare, by Law. They drive cars, by the simple expedient of not paying for them, nor insuring them, nor registering them. They do not lack televisions and other frivolous "neccesities". We have all seen it.

Surely there are people who are "poor", truly poor. but it is expedient for as many people as possible to be defined as "Poor". It buys votes. It pretends they are victims.

My grandfather was orphaned at 14; he made a good life for himself. My father on the other side of the family lost his father at 8. He made something of himself. I am fed up with listening to the cynical pandering to people who cannot be bothered.

59 posted on 04/08/2007 6:25:44 AM PDT by Gorzaloon (Global Warming: A New Kind Of Scientology for the Rest Of Us.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

don’t spit into the wind... LOL.


60 posted on 04/08/2007 6:27:46 AM PDT by zwerni (it's the end of the world as we know it...)
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