Posted on 04/07/2007 2:30:04 PM PDT by meg88
Rudy Giuliani is the best presidential candidate.
On Thursday, April 5, there were two articles in the opinion section that led me to this conclusion. One was "Rudy would kill pro-life movement" written by Doug Patton and the other, "A New Yorker Remembers Rudy" written by Ted Rall.
Patton represents the religious right movement that has taken over the Republican Party. Within his article, he even commends Rudy Giuliani as a candidate. However he is ready to jettison a candidate on one issue only. Patton equates conservatism to pro-life. I would say that anyone who wants to have government tell others how to live by their religious standards is not conservative at all.
From Rudy's website: "Rudy Giuliani supports reasonable restrictions on abortion such as parental notification with a judicial bypass and a ban on partial birth abortion -- except when the life of the mother is at stake. He's proud that adoptions increased 66 percent while abortions decreased over 16 percent in New York City when he was mayor. But Rudy understands that this is a deeply personal moral dilemma, and people of good conscience can disagree respectfully. Ultimately he believes that it is a decision between a woman, her doctor, her family and her God.
Ted Rall is as far left as you can get. His article is spent on Rudy Giuliani's performance during and after 9/11 and his personality. He also chastises him for running off panhandlers. It is his opinion. He never mentions performance in other areas such as when Rudy restored fiscal discipline by controlling spending and cutting wasteful programs. He cut the size of city-funded government bureaucracy by nearly 20 percent -- excluding the number of cops on the street and teachers in the classroom.
He cut taxes 23 times in New York and turned a $2.3 billion budget deficit into a multi-billion dollar surplus, while balancing the city's budget. He put more cops on the street and more criminals in jail. He cut crime in half and reduced murders by two-thirds during his time as mayor. He accomplished this as a Republican mayor with a Democratic city council. Could a "self sabotaging, thin skinned bully" deliver these results?
The extreme right and left in politics dislike him as a candidate. To me, this is the best reason to vote for him.
Tuesday, June 20, 2000
MAYOR GIULIANI AND SPEAKER VALLONE ANNOUNCE CITY LAWSUIT AGAINST GUN INDUSTRY
Wow. I’ve learned a lot today.
First, that Giuliani is “the saviour” of the GOP, and that his supporters are so unwise and tone-deaf that they can’t see how offensive posting such an assertion on Easter weekend is.
And secondly, that he managed to get the endorsement of some seventeen-year old punk no one has ever heard of.
Impressive.
Look, I am anti-Rudy for prez (although I thought he was a good Mayor). But criticizing him for being on the liberal party line is incorrect. Over time, the liberal party line became somewhat a classically liberal party line. It was liberal, but not socialists. It also reject race-based politics. It was entirely appropriate for Giluliani to accept the liberal party line when running against Dinkins, the socialist race hustler. FWIW I live in NY from 1991-1995.
Well, he also has zook on his side.
Why should I try to explain anything to you? As Gary Cooper said, several times, in High Noon, “If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn’t understand it.”
True dat.
Don’t. Expalining an embrace of an extremist abortion supporter is just noise to me. Explaining support for a gun-grabber is also. Ditto explaining support for a mob-connected, corrupt liar. So no need to explain zook. Just hang your head in shame.
Hang my head in shame? You are one messed up dude.
You could have just let it go, in the name of free speech, diversity of conservative opinion, etc. But no. You had to first talk about what daddy allows or doesn’t allow on this site, then you had to go off into weird right wing punkville with the baby killer remark.
Says tons ‘bout ‘cha, babe!
Nice photo (yawn).
Every mayor of every big US city has to have that picture taken. But when you’re president you see the bigger picture.
The way the 2nd Amendment works in this country won’t change one iota under a Giuliani administration.
Anyhow, my work is done here. Break up the Rudy bashing party, at least for a few minutes. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Yep. So does your embrace of a thug who would tax me to kill babies. Glory in your embrace of liberals. But do try and remember that most people here understand what a conservative is and recognize liberalism when they see it.
I'm trying to figure out the logic of that statement, please help me. Does this mean that in the 1980 presidential campaign, a conservative might have supported Carter on the theory that tax rates would not have gone any higher than they were at the time? Or that appeasement of the Soviets would not have gotten any worse if Carter was reelected? Might one have supported Gore in 2000 on the theory that all of the bad things of Clinton would not have gotten any worse?
You might be right that no more guns would be grabbed under Rudy than they are now. I just don't see that as the positive statement that you do, unless of course you think tha the amount of guns being grabbed now is the right amount.
Thanks for revealing waht side you're on.
Here's a few "choice" quotes from the witch:
"The most merciful thing that a family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." - Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.
"Birth control must lead ultimately to a cleaner race." - Margaret Sanger. Woman, Morality, and Birth Control. New York: New York Publishing Company, 1922. Page 12.
"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don't want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population. and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." - Margaret Sanger's December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Original source: Sophia Smith Collection, Smith College, North Hampton, Massachusetts. Also described in Linda Gordon's Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America. New York: Grossman Publishers, 1976.
"Eugenic sterilization is an urgent need ... We must prevent multiplication of this bad stock." - Margaret Sanger, April 1933 Birth Control Review.
"Eugenics is … the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.
"Birth control itself, often denounced as a violation of natural law, is nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or of those who will become defectives."
"As an advocate of birth control I wish ... to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the 'unfit' and the 'fit,' admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation....On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.
"The campaign for birth control is not merely of eugenic value, but is practically identical with the final aims of eugenics." - Margaret Sanger. "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda." Birth Control Review, October 1921, page 5.
"Our failure to segregate morons who are increasing and multiplying ... demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant sentimentalism ... [Philanthropists] encourage the healthier and more normal sections of the world to shoulder the burden of unthinking and indiscriminate fecundity of others; which brings with it, as I think the reader must agree, a dead weight of human waste. Instead of decreasing and aiming to eliminate the stocks that are most detrimental to the future of the race and the world, it tends to render them to a menacing degree dominant ... We are paying for, and even submitting to, the dictates of an ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning class of human beings who never should have been born at all." - Margaret Sanger. The Pivot of Civilization, 1922. Chapter on "The Cruelty of Charity," pages 116, 122, and 189. Swarthmore College Library edition.
"The undeniably feeble-minded should, indeed, not only be discouraged but prevented from propagating their kind." - Margaret Sanger, quoted in Charles Valenza. "Was Margaret Sanger a Racist?" Family Planning Perspectives, January-February 1985, page 44.
"The third group [of society] are those irresponsible and reckless ones having little regard for the consequences of their acts, or whose religious scruples prevent their exercising control over their numbers. Many of this group are diseased, feeble-minded, and are of the pauper element dependent upon the normal and fit members of society for their support. There is no doubt in the minds of all thinking people that the procreation of this group should be stopped." - Margaret Sanger. Speech quoted in Birth Control: What It Is, How It Works, What It Will Do. The Proceedings of the First American Birth Control Conference. Held at the Hotel Plaza, New York City, November 11-12, 1921. Published by the Birth Control Review, Gothic Press, pages 172 and 174.
"The marriage bed is the most degenerative influence in the social order..." - Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.
"[Our objective is] unlimited sexual gratification without the burden of unwanted children..." - Margaret Sanger (editor). The Woman Rebel, Volume I, Number 1. Reprinted in Woman and the New Race. New York: Brentanos Publishers, 1922.
"Give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad genes'] in our population their choice of segregation or [compulsory] sterilization." - Margaret Sanger, April 1932 Birth Control Review.
"As we celebrate the 100th birthday of Margaret Sanger, our outrageous and our courageous leader, we will probably find a number of areas in which we may find more about Margaret Sanger than we thought we wanted to know..." - Faye Wattleton, Past-president of Planned Parenthood
Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the American Baby Code that states, "No woman shall have the legal right to bear a child… without a permit for parenthood."
Margaret Sanger, Founder of Planned Parenthood, proposed the Population Congress with the aim, "...to give certain dysgenic groups in our population their choice of segregation or sterilization."
Fred Thompson 43.8%
Huncan Hunter 11.8%
Rudy Giuliani 10.5%
Where is Alan Keyes?
You mean, it will still be the poor stepchild of the bill of rights? There's a ringing endoresement of Giuliani.
Who decides who they’ll vote for fully one year before the election? I’m waiting to see how it all plays out.
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