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To: Gondring; CedarDave; NormsRevenge
Dr. Wunsch’s website, not RealClimate...

thank you for your thoughtful replies and the link. I read his reply and it was as I expected -- his politics is driving his science. Climate change has become so politiczied by ONLY the left, that rational discourse is nearly impossible. Most people fall into left or right when it comes to government. It is obvious from Mr Wunsch's reply that he believes "government" is a force for good. Many of us in the mindset of our Founders, believe that government at best is a necessary evil, at its worse, an intolerable one. So, yes, many on the right view Al Gore and his type with deep suspicion. The left's true concerns are NOT about climate, but about controlling humans through government force. Mr. Wunsch wrote the following in his reply, Some of the details in the film make me cringe, but I think the overall thrust is appropriate. To the extent that he has gotten some things wrong, I mainly fault his scientific advisers, who should know better, but not Al Gore.

he says the "thrust is appropriate"? I gather he means Gore's solution of forcing a drastic lower of our standards of living, condemning millions in the third world to death all the while profiting through his carbon trading scam. It is disgusting that people truly believe that some tax on capitalistic countries will effect any significant change in climate. It is utterly ridiculous. His final statement that shows he leans left in his political outlook is that he "faults" Gore's advisor's? That is utterly laughable. Mr Gore set out with a goal (to profit from this scam) and went about finding scientists who would give him credibility. Throughout Mr. Wunsch's reply you can easily see that it pains him to project himself as "balanced" and fearful of arguments on either side. Well, Mr. Wunsch should know most one the right would be happy to let the climate do what it will do and leave other humans alone. On the other hand, Gore and his ilk want "immediate" steps taken. They are panicked and insist with rabid zeal the immediacy of the problem. They know they only have so much time to fool the masses. Deep down, they have to know that in 10, 20 years this so called problem with be seen to be non issue. Again, the sole purpose of Gore and his ilk is to steal the wealth of the productive citizens and condemn the humans of this Earth to the living Hell of totalitarian control. They are control freaks. Their goals are truly Evil. Again, thank your for your thoughtful comments.

39 posted on 04/09/2007 1:34:06 PM PDT by sand88
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To: sand88
They are panicked and insist with rabid zeal the immediacy of the problem. They know they only have so much time to fool the masses. Deep down, they have to know that in 10, 20 years this so called problem with be seen to be non issue. Again, the sole purpose of Gore and his ilk is to steal the wealth of the productive citizens and condemn the humans of this Earth to the living Hell of totalitarian control. They are control freaks. Their goals are truly Evil. Again, thank your for your thoughtful comments.

A lot of people don't get their real agenda. You do. I put a statement on my home page that fits well here:

They [environmental radicals and one-world socialists] have hijacked the once respectable environmental movement to espouse and put into place, by regulation and decree, their false vision of how man should live his life, by their tenets and values, their rules, limiting his free choice and limiting the marketplace to whatever products they deem socially acceptable according to their environmental norms.

47 posted on 04/09/2007 2:26:48 PM PDT by CedarDave
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