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Bilbray says U.S. needs guest-worker program
North County Times ^ | 4/6/07 | Edward Sifuentes

Posted on 04/06/2007 7:17:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

ESCONDIDO -- U.S. Rep. Brian Bilbray, R-Solana Beach, said Thursday that he would support a guest-worker program similar to the Bracero Program that brought thousands of low-skilled laborers from Mexico starting in the 1940s and ending in the 1960s.

The Bracero Program was widely criticized by human rights groups for abuses, but Bilbray said it created economic opportunities for poor Mexicans.

Bilbray said migrant workers should be allowed to come to work in the United States, but should not be able to become permanent residents, nor should their children born in the country be granted U.S. citizenship.

"The old Bracero program, with all its warts, did more to create a middle class in Latin America than anything else," Bilbray said.

In a two-hour discussion with members of the North County Times editorial board that concentrated primarily on immigration reform and the war in Iraq, Bilbray said he has looked into creating such a guest-worker proposal.

"I knew that eventually I would have to push through a true guest-worker program to show that what was being offered wasn't," he said. "It was an amnesty program."

Bilbray was elected to represent the 50th Congressional District, a swath of North County that stretches from Escondido south to Del Mar, on a platform of immigration enforcement.

In June, Bilbray was elected to temporarily fill the 50th District seat vacated by the imprisoned Randy "Duke" Cunningham, who was sentenced to federal prison for his role in a bribery scam. Bilbray was elected again in November to serve a full two-year term.

Among the more than 50 bills he has authored or signed on to, Bilbray has proposed switching to a two-year federal budget process, requiring employers to conduct employment eligibility verification, denying U.S. citizenship to children born here to illegal immigrant parents and building more fence along the U.S. border with Mexico.

In recent weeks, Congressional leaders have taken up the immigration reform debate that stalled last year.

The White House outlined a proposal that would give some illegal immigrants legal status and create a guest-worker program that would allow foreign workers in. But the plan would not give them an option to stay, nor would they be allowed to bring in their family, according to The Associated Press.

Bilbray said he liked the president's guest-worker proposal, but not his legalization plan. He said the proposal could serve as a starting point for debate in Congress.

"I think it creates a great opportunity, mostly because he's finally separated guest worker from amnesty," Bilbray said. "It was synonymous before ... anytime he was talking about guest worker, he was talking about amnesty."

The president's plan is just one of several being discussed in Washington.

A broad immigration bill introduced last month by Reps. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., would give illegal immigrants six-year visas and create a guest-worker program, while increasing the number of Border Patrol agents, border fences and surveillance equipment.

Sen. Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., is also expected to introduce a similar bill in the Senate.

Frank Sharry, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, an immigrant rights advocacy group, said the new Democratic leadership in Congress and the president want to pass a broad immigration reform plan. He said Bilbray's guest-worker idea is not likely to get much support.

Sharry said the new Democratic majority in Congress is instead likely to rally around comprehensive immigration bills, similar to the Gutierrez-Flake proposal.

"When you suffer a huge loss, like a death in the family or the leadership in Congress, the first stage is denial, and I would say that Bilbray is in denial," Sharry said.

On recent immigration enforcement efforts in North County, Bilbray said he has encouraged local governments to work with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to catch illegal immigrants at sobriety checkpoints.

Regarding the Iraq war, Bilbray said he wants Congress to give military commanders and the troops a chance to succeed. Asked what he believed victory in Iraq would look like, he offered Turkey as a model.

"Turkey is a functioning system. That's the best goal that we can hope for down the line," he said.

Bilbray also said leaving a country that is not a "petri dish for terrorism" would be a victory for the United States.

President Bush is expected to veto an Iraq war-funding bill pushed by Democrats that sets a timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops.

Bilbray called the measure a high-stakes "game of chicken" that he said would end with Democrats giving in and funding the troops.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bilbray; bracero; guestworker; program
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1 posted on 04/06/2007 7:17:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s not like we have a guest worker program now. [/sarc]


2 posted on 04/06/2007 7:18:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: NormsRevenge

We already have a guest worker program. What is he talking about?


3 posted on 04/06/2007 7:20:03 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

When I was a kid I lived in an area where migrant (guest) workers picked various root crops and worked on sod farms.


4 posted on 04/06/2007 7:21:55 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bilbray says U.S. needs guest-worker program

What next, the U.S. needs sharia law????

5 posted on 04/06/2007 7:22:47 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: NormsRevenge

And we need more drunken Mexicans killing people on the highways too.


6 posted on 04/06/2007 7:25:04 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: NormsRevenge
No what we need is politicians willing to promote the interests of ordinary US citizens over the interests of poor Mexicans and those that abuse them as cheap labor.
7 posted on 04/06/2007 7:29:15 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: NormsRevenge
No politician from any border state should have any say in national policy regarding the invaders. They are all to compromised by the invader’s special interest groups and the cheap labor whore’s campaign contributions.
8 posted on 04/06/2007 7:29:28 PM PDT by DogBarkTree (The United States failure to act against Iran will be seen as weakness throughout the Muslim world.)
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To: DogBarkTree
No politician from any border state should have any say in national policy regarding the invaders.

Then again, if it were not for some of the border state politicians, representing states that are bearing the brunt of the costs, few politicians would be concerned about the issue right now.
9 posted on 04/06/2007 7:34:34 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: DogBarkTree
No politician from any border state should have any say in national policy regarding the invaders. They are all to compromised by the invader’s special interest groups and the cheap labor whore’s campaign contributions.

Very interesting point.

10 posted on 04/06/2007 7:35:34 PM PDT by Condor 63
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To: NormsRevenge

How about this:

1. You cannot bring your family, only single workers admitted.
2. You can only stay four months, and must go back to Mexico for eight before returning.
3. You will receive your wages in Mexico City, and you must show up in person to collect.


11 posted on 04/06/2007 7:36:15 PM PDT by proxy_user
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To: DogBarkTree

Thats the real truth. This issue is driven by Business looking for cheap labor.
As a result, driving down wages of a variety of American labor jobs.


12 posted on 04/06/2007 7:37:42 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: DogBarkTree

It’s not just border states or not just southern border states. Here in Michigan we’ve got our fair share of illegals and they ain’t Canadian.


13 posted on 04/06/2007 7:38:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: NormsRevenge
I’m afraid it’s too late folks.

It’s not like we have a few hundred thousand illegals here, there are millions.

I watched a piece with Newt Gingrich (globalist), speaking fluent Spanish addressing the Mexicans south of the border.

One of his comments was, we need to be sensitive to the interest of the Mexican worker in the U.S.

Grrrrrrrrrrr. Newts like Bush, he’za globalist and will work to keep those borders open.

14 posted on 04/06/2007 7:39:21 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: NormsRevenge

We need a Mandatory Congressional retirement program that would allow No more than 4 terms for the house and two terms for the senate.

We need that more than we need a guest workers program.


15 posted on 04/06/2007 7:41:03 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: NormsRevenge
The old Bracero program, with all its warts, did more to create a middle class in Latin America than anything else," Bilbray said.

Baloney.

I am completely opposed to a guest worker program. If you need a man that bad, then give him and his family residency and full immigrant rights. If you don't need him that bad enough to do that, then you don't need him that bad.

Seal the border. Bring in the people you need, but bring them in as full immigrants, here to stay. If you don't want to do that, then try raising your wages and you'll get all the workers you need.

I have no problem bringing in foreigners with special skills. I am really completely opposed to bringing in laborers, its a mistake to promote the idea that some jobs only foreigners and second class workers will do. Cheap labor is a drug. We need to kick it.

16 posted on 04/06/2007 7:46:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: cripplecreek

they’re all over here in Northern NJ too


17 posted on 04/06/2007 7:52:43 PM PDT by tina07 (In Memory of my Father - WWII Army Air Force Veteran)
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To: NormsRevenge

None dare call it treason - the new name is Gast Arbeiten.


18 posted on 04/06/2007 8:06:16 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Current tagline is banned under hate speech laws.)
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To: marron

What the US really need is a new CCC(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps) for young poor people with no prospects.

There are plenty of people for low skilled “dirty” jobs(construction, farm work etc...) already in the states. However they have no self-discipline and companies have to pay them minimum wage. A program to get these kids off the streets, give them “three hots and a flop” and help them learn self discipline would go a long way towards fixing some of the social problems in the US.

As it stands the US is just increasing the size of its permanent underclass with illegals. Pretty soon the US really will be a 3rd world country.


19 posted on 04/06/2007 8:11:04 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: NormsRevenge

I would like to see a 30 Ft. high wall 20 miles south of me but it ain’t going to happen.
I would like to see the 12 million + illegls rounded up and back to Mexico, but it ain’t going to happen.
We need to stop the continued problem.

Bilbray has always been tough on the border issue.
The only thing I can think where he is coming from is some kind of give in to the illegals will pass congress and he is trying to find the less problem maker.

Here in San Diego Thousands cross the border every day to work legally, not counting the illegals.
This problem should have been delt with years ago.
Now we have a run away train.


20 posted on 04/06/2007 8:32:09 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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