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To: NormsRevenge
The old Bracero program, with all its warts, did more to create a middle class in Latin America than anything else," Bilbray said.

Baloney.

I am completely opposed to a guest worker program. If you need a man that bad, then give him and his family residency and full immigrant rights. If you don't need him that bad enough to do that, then you don't need him that bad.

Seal the border. Bring in the people you need, but bring them in as full immigrants, here to stay. If you don't want to do that, then try raising your wages and you'll get all the workers you need.

I have no problem bringing in foreigners with special skills. I am really completely opposed to bringing in laborers, its a mistake to promote the idea that some jobs only foreigners and second class workers will do. Cheap labor is a drug. We need to kick it.

16 posted on 04/06/2007 7:46:21 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron

What the US really need is a new CCC(see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_Conservation_Corps) for young poor people with no prospects.

There are plenty of people for low skilled “dirty” jobs(construction, farm work etc...) already in the states. However they have no self-discipline and companies have to pay them minimum wage. A program to get these kids off the streets, give them “three hots and a flop” and help them learn self discipline would go a long way towards fixing some of the social problems in the US.

As it stands the US is just increasing the size of its permanent underclass with illegals. Pretty soon the US really will be a 3rd world country.


19 posted on 04/06/2007 8:11:04 PM PDT by ketsu
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To: marron
I am completely opposed to a guest worker program. If you need a man that bad, then give him and his family residency and full immigrant rights. If you don't need him that bad enough to do that, then you don't need him that bad.

That is like saying that, if you need a cleaning lady to clean your bachelor house once a week, you should marry her and adopt her kids or do without her cleaning services.

Seal the border. Bring in the people you need, but bring them in as full immigrants, here to stay. If you don't want to do that, then try raising your wages and you'll get all the workers you need.

Why would you want to bring legions of fruit pickers into the U.S. as full citizens or pay a wage high enough to have U.S. citizens do stoop farm labor and have fruits and vegetables priced at the level of a New York strip steak?

Right now, the U.S. is flooded with illegals because the produce needs picking, Americans won't pick it and the only way a Mexican can get here to pick it is to sneak across the desert. Once here, they don't want to risk their life in the desert again.

Once here, the multimillion dollar agribusiness owner does not want his labor force deported and his produce left to rot on the vine so he greases the palm of Congresscritters to ignore the issue of illegal aliens all together.

What, exactly, is so terrible about contracting foreign labor to do the dirty little jobs that are simply not worth $25 per hour and then having them return home with dollars to spend in their home towns at the end of each contract period?

While stationed at U.S. Naval Base, Guantanamo, we had hundreds of Jamaican guest workers doing just that.

45 posted on 04/07/2007 3:46:56 AM PDT by Polybius
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