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Life Lessons for Rudy
National Review ^ | April 6, 2007 | NR Editors

Posted on 04/06/2007 10:20:13 AM PDT by Kuksool

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To: Luke21

Me 2!


41 posted on 04/06/2007 12:19:09 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: aligncare

I personally don’t care about polls until primary time (that’s why I despise all of these opinion polls that are supposed to be a representation of the entire country when they poll only 1,000 people out of over 150,000,000 adults). Come winter, I’ll be putting more stock into them; by that time, people will be more educated about the candidates and their positions.

But for the time being, I don’t really care. It’s all name recognition and celebrity factor.


42 posted on 04/06/2007 12:23:21 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008. Audio, Video, and Quotes in my profile.)
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To: aligncare
will all of you who put NO stock in the polls that showed Mr. Giuliani in the lead, will you then concede that the polls had been an accurate reflection of Republican opinion?

they are an accurate reflection of Republican opinion a yr+ out from a primary, when the rank and file voters are not really focusing on the election, or on the relative positions of the candidates. that is what the polls represent.

43 posted on 04/06/2007 12:27:53 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: narses

SOURCE FR Thread—Barone: The Changing Republican Race.


44 posted on 04/06/2007 12:46:52 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Liz

Thanks!


45 posted on 04/06/2007 12:47:33 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: narses
Great quote from Ray Kerrison in that post. His words from 20 years ago ring true to this day . . .

After clarifying his clarifications, Rudy Giuliani has finally decided he’s in favor of legal abortion, a decision that will be viewed as either sensible, sad, cynical or opportunistic…. Is no one concerned about parental consent, allowing 13-year-old girls to have abortions without even telling their parents? Is no one concerned about millions of taxpayer dollars being used to fund abortions?

Is no voter concerned that the American birth rate has fallen, that we are not even reproducing ourselves because 25 million Americans have been destroyed in the womb since 1973, when abortion was made legal?

For these voters, Rudy Giuliani once seemed to offer an alternative to the full-speed-ahead Democrats, but now that hope has vanished. Rudy has joined the crowd, so there’s no debate on the greatest issue of the day, and that makes all of us losers. It may yet make Rudy a loser, too. Why change for more of the same?

46 posted on 04/06/2007 12:55:14 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Alberta's Child

It is sad. Rudy has rejected the truth. His talents go towards evil.


47 posted on 04/06/2007 12:57:49 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: aligncare
When the polls turn south on Mr. Giuliani...will all of you who put NO stock in the polls that showed Mr. Giuliani in the lead, will you then concede that the polls had been an accurate reflection of Republican opinion?

Only if all of you who insisted that "Rudy is the only one who can beat Hillary" will stop that tiresome nonsense, too. :-P

48 posted on 04/06/2007 12:58:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: flashbunny

Nope. It is arrogance. A downfall for the “so called” intelligent.

It just getsya, you know?


49 posted on 04/06/2007 1:04:16 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: Kuksool

Great article, great post. Totally nails Giuliani’s ass to the wall.


50 posted on 04/06/2007 1:12:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: aligncare

Quite right. For consistency’s sake, I’m still waiting for him to apply that same rationale to a right that is actually enumerated in the Constitution: the right to keep and bear arms.


51 posted on 04/06/2007 1:18:58 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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To: Alberta's Child
I wonder why the folks at National Review have taken such a strong position on this right now.

Critical mass, maybe? One thing after another...

52 posted on 04/06/2007 1:23:42 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: Spiff
I’m going to enjoy watching his campaign bleed out over the next few months and will equally enjoy kicking around its desicated corpse some time in the next year.

Watch what happens when Rudy drops out or starts losing in the GOP primaries.

He's going to start lashing out at "the extreme right" for holding the Republican party "hostage" or something. The MSM is going to carry his water, and they'll drag out Hagel or even McCain to denounce the "extreme right" as well (and play a clip from the 1992 GOP Convention).

53 posted on 04/06/2007 1:24:59 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: veronica
But they may have a moral one, as abortion IS legal at this point.

So legal = moral? Is that what you are saying?

54 posted on 04/06/2007 1:25:24 PM PDT by don-o (Fight, fight. fight to drive the GOP to the right!!!!)
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To: Liz

The truth about Rudy is coming out. Republicans are starting to become aware of Rudy’s positions on things. They are seeing he is more pro-abortion than some Democrats and his views on homosexual rights, gun rights, and immigration differ widely from those of conservatives. Rudy is a flaming liberal and just because the Roe vs. Wade currently is permitting abortion in this country, it doesn’t mean it has to be funded. Like the article mentions, the Second Amendment permits guns, but you won’t see Rudy funding guns. Rudy is making it more and more clear his judges will support abortion. We just need one more judge to get some change in this country. Rudy could throw off the process for years. We must keep spreading the word to watch Rudy plummet. The Republican Party must remeber its conservative base. It’s time for a strong conservative candidate to step in.


55 posted on 04/06/2007 1:25:28 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Whack-A-Lib = Improved version of Whack-A-Mole)
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To: Kuksool
Mandatory crazy nurse pic for Trudy thread:
56 posted on 04/06/2007 1:29:53 PM PDT by jatopilot99 (Mitt Romney is pro-abortion, pro-gay, and pro-euthanasia!)
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To: Luke21
You and me and Flashbunny, and Extremely Extreme Extremist

Well, to be honest, I was actually a Rudy supporter up until about a month ago.

57 posted on 04/06/2007 1:37:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What happened?


58 posted on 04/06/2007 1:37:49 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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To: Pinkbell

N-i-c-e take-—thanks.


59 posted on 04/06/2007 1:43:10 PM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: narses
What happened?

His convoluted statement explaining that the 2nd Amendment is for hunting, and his refusal to denounce abortion pretty much sealed it for me. I was ready to give him the benefit of the doubt, hoping that as the campaign wore on, he'd move to the right on the social issues.

I just felt that a President had no credibility or moral character if he openly supported abortion.

60 posted on 04/06/2007 1:50:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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