Posted on 04/06/2007 10:20:13 AM PDT by Kuksool
would be a good tagline.
For your rudy ping list!
I wonder why the folks at National Review have taken such a strong position on this right now.
The most level headed of ALL conservatives knew from the beginning that Rudy was the wrong man to become the next GOP nominee. His support has fallen in the last month and for good reason. In the coming months conservatives will get a clearer picture of Giuliani's liberalism, and his support will continue to drop off.
My position on abortion is exactly the same as it has always been, I don’t see my position on that changing.
Rudy Giuliani
New York Times, November 30, 1999
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“As a Republican, it made more sense for me to be pro-choice. I think Republicans more often want people to make choices about their own lives,” and he advocated government intrusion “only to the extent necessary.”
The former mayor told the student audience: “I think some people will come to the moral choice about abortion that it is sinful or wrong. But ultimately I think it is the woman’s right and the choice she has to make.”
And: “Seven out of 10 Americans are pro-life and pro-choice. They would prefer that somebody didn’t have an abortion. They might even prefer that somebody didn’t have an abortion. They might even prefer themselves not to have an abortion. They say as far as government is concerned, it shouldn’t interfere with abortion or shouldn’t criminalize it.”
In other words, not as originally described. Mr. Giuliani’s remarks were basically what he’s been saying for years.
New York Times, November 14, 2005
(Emphasis Added)
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After clarifying his clarifications, Rudy Giuliani has finally decided he’s in favor of legal abortion, a decision that will be viewed as either sensible, sad, cynical or opportunistic…. Is no one concerned about parental consent, allowing 13-year-old girls to have abortions without even telling their parents? Is no one concerned about millions of taxpayer dollars being used to fund abortions?
Is no voter concerned that the American birth rate has fallen, that we are not even reproducing ourselves because 25 million Americans have been destroyed in the womb since 1973, when abortion was made legal?
For these voters, Rudy Giuliani once seemed to offer an alternative to the full-speed-ahead Democrats, but now that hope has vanished. Rudy has joined the crowd, so there’s no debate on the greatest issue of the day, and that makes all of us losers. It may yet make Rudy a loser, too. Why change for more of the same?
Ray Kerrison, Columnist
New York Post, August 9, 1987
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He is a bright and talented manager. But he’s also a skillful compromiser and some principles simply cannot be negotiated away….he parts company on an issue about which there can be no compromise, no negotiation. Rudolph Giuliani not only supports the right to choose an abortion, he also supports the right to perform partial birth abortion. He would defend the right to slaughter a fully-formed and healthy nine month old pre-born on the day it’s being born.
“Rudy’s Smoke Screen,” Msgr. James Lisante
The Long Island Catholic, November 24, 1999
Just look at Giuliani's recent muddled, disingenuous statements on this issue, and compare them to the forceful and assertive -- but radical, hard-core, pro-abortion -- statements he's made in the past.
Does anyone here really doubt where Giuliani stands on this issue?
Perhaps because of all the statements Rudy has made this week, especially the one about tax payer funded abortion....
Maybe. But NR never really struck me as having a solid pro-life slant in the past.
But they may have a moral one, as abortion IS legal at this point.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
A few are still putting up a fight. Most seem to have retreated to Wideawakes where everything is Perfectville (read the threads only if you have a fully-functioning pancreas).
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Looks like they got together on their little forum and decided to put up a fight on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1813211/posts
As usual, they ain’t very good at debating and defending. Just spinning.
I cannot remember being briefed on my mobster friend Bernie....
Mr. Giuliani’s recent comments have shaken things up here at Free Republic, that is certain. He indeed has shaken me up.
But, I am waiting to hear how this plays out in the real world of national Republican politics.
Of course this brings a question to mind. When the polls turn south on Mr. Giuliani...will all of you who put NO stock in the polls that showed Mr. Giuliani in the lead, will you then concede that the polls had been an accurate reflection of Republican opinion?
Rudeo is getting LOTS of help from his nauseating wife. Ever since Rudeo brought Judi into the campaign spotlight, whenever she opens her mouth, Rudy's poll numbers go into freefall.
Judi's trail of deceit never ends: public adultery, serial marriages, "forgetting" her first husband, puppy stapling, and the 20/20 debacle (intended to elevate Judi into the Cabinet).
Here's the tally to date:
USA Today/Gallup March 23-25 poll shows Rudy Giuliani with 31% of the vote, down from 44% March 2-4. Similar results come from April 4 Rasmussen poll. Giuliani still leads with 26%, down from 35% percent from March 27 poll. Thompson has replaced Giuliani in first place in the 10th week of the Pajamas Media online straw poll. (SOURCE FR Thread--Barone: The Changing Republican Race.)
The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that Giuliani’s lead over Hillary has disappeared. Last month, Giuliani had an eight point lead over Clinton. The month before, it was nine points. Giuliani had been ahead of Clinton in five straight monthly polls dating back to December.
Two other polls released this week show the same slippage for Giuliani. He lost his lead over Sen Barack Obama and also lost nine percentage points of support in the race for the GOP Nomination. This latest survey finds that Giuliani’s favorability ratings have also slipped.
At this point polls are an indication of name recognition. They always are when starting anew. As polls move forward in time, they tend to reflect people starting to know what the candidates stand for.
Do you have links to that poll data? areafiftyone might want to look.
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