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To: veronica

Isn’t that like saying “I’m opposed to murder but if others choose it who am I to try to stop it?”


2 posted on 04/06/2007 9:46:15 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Isn’t that like saying “I’m opposed to murder but if others choose it who am I to try to stop it?”

Not at all. Murder is a crime that is defined, prosecuted and punished at the state level. If abortion is murder, it certainly should be defined as such at the state level as well. That is the appropriate position for a presidential candidate, and if the SCOTUS were to adopt that position, it would be the end of Roe v. Wade.

21 posted on 04/06/2007 9:58:41 AM PDT by Maceman (Scratch a progressive, find a misanthrope.)
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To: Borges
Isn't that like saying “I’m opposed to murder but if others choose it who am I to try to stop it

I agree, Borges. Rudy is applying the "Popular Sovereignty" cop-out long ago perfected by Stephen A. Douglas. Rudy's arguments about respecting the right of "the people" to choose abortion perfectly parallel Douglas's arguments about respecting the right of "the people" to choose abortion... What is ignored in both arguments is the right of the victim in each instance--- the slave and the unborn baby.

I wish someone would ask Rudy, WHY is abortion a "bad thing"? If he says, becuase his church teaches that it is, I'd like someone to ask him WHY his church teaches this.

I actually tend to doubt Rudy when says he thinks abortion so very, very bad.

In fact Rudy in this case reminds me of your typical disingenuous leftie yapping about how bad Saddam Hussein was. Both claim they hate the thing they know they're supposed to hate "more than anyone", but rarely admit any substantive reasons for doing so, since acknowledging said reasons would have the consequence of making their respective soft positions on them look ridiculous or cold-hearted.
74 posted on 04/06/2007 10:38:07 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Borges

As long as the right to an abortion is legal, regulated by the States and protected by the Constitution, then No.


139 posted on 04/06/2007 5:50:40 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: Borges
Isn’t that like saying “I’m opposed to murder but if others choose it who am I to try to stop it?”

No, it's more like saying "I'm opposed to murder but if others choose to do it I'll help pay for the knife or axe from federal taxes."

145 posted on 04/06/2007 6:07:49 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Borges

No. It is not part of the constitution.
10th Amendment applies.

I agree.


149 posted on 04/06/2007 7:19:09 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: Borges
Isn’t that like saying “I’m opposed to murder but if others choose it who am I to try to stop it?”

That's not "like saying", it IS saying the same thing except for exchanging "abortion" for "murder".

AFAIC abortion is murder. I know it isn't murder according to the legal definition of the term, because it hasn't been illegal to deliberately kill an unborn baby since 1973. But in a moral sense it's nothing less than premeditated murder, and I believe God sees it exactly the same as murder and will judge abortionists accordingly.

151 posted on 04/06/2007 7:40:18 PM PDT by epow (My job is so secret that I'm not allowed to know what I'm doing.)
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