ABORTION ABORTION ABORTION...It’s not going to change whoever the President is...what makes the next President any different than all the Presidents since Roe v. Wade? And even if it goes back to the States..tell me..how many States are really going to outlaw it?
I used to come on FreeRepublic when I was feeling low and it used to pick me up. Now, when I come on FreeRepublic, I just get more depressed because it just seems like so many of you are living in another decade and refuse to see things as they truly are and work within those parameters.
“so many of you are living in another decade and refuse to see things as they truly are and work within those parameters.”
Another decade... more like another dimension, with Peter Pan.
my own prediction - absent Roe, 2 states would outlaw abortion for adult women in the first trimester - Utah and Mississippi. and be able to sustain it through their election and legislative process.
and when that became apparent, I guarantee you that social conservatives would be back asking for an activist SCOTUS on the flipside, finding some constitutional prohibition for first trimester abortions.
Maybe you should direct your angst at politicos instead.. just a thought. I don’t think you take enough time off if you don’t know what decade you think other folks areliving in.. or what forum you might really belong at.
OH, PS, I used to come to FR to get away from socialists posing as Republicans, now they are all over the place and don’t even pretend to be anything but “Progressives”.
The POTUS won't be elected on bandwidth wasted here arguing back and forth.
Clearly, conservatism in a general sense has become muddled, overwhelmed in fact by sheer numbers of the opposition, such is politics.
It's not always a matter of principle as you point out.
Common sense is lost when one removes rose-colored glasses and cannot see the forest for the trees.
How many times are people like you going this stupid point? The President has the most power on the issue as the President nominates Supreme Court justices. Overturning Roe is the only way for progress to made on the issue.
BTW, the majority of the American public favor banning abortion except in the cases of rape, incest and the mother's life being endangered so overturning Roe would make a difference.
Meanwhile, what in the world does abortion have to do with "conservatives" approving a RINO that is a radical environmentalist and trying to implement socialized health care in California. Are you proud "conservatives" and Republicans are too stupid or left-wing in that state to support a liberal Republican?
It does matter who the President is. After all he appoints judges to the SCOTUS who interpret the Constitution and arrive at judicial decisions. Where does it say in the Constitution that abortion is or is not a inherent right of all citizens. It doesn't say either way. It does say that the President is charged with protecting citizens from external threats.
The President has the power by executive order to promote life, for example by banning overseas abortion on military bases. Through the State Department he has the ability to promote life thru various international organizations like the U. N. He can thru his good offices promote pro-life policies in the Congress, e. g., the Hyde Amendment.
You say the abortion issue is not going to change no matter who the President is. I respectfully disagree. Reagan and Bush I & II promoted pro-life causes, Clinton did not and in fact overturned all of the executive orders concerning abortion that were in place when Bush I left office. Choices do matter. I prefer a pro-life candidate over another because I believe in the right choice, and that happens to be life.
We all happen to live in the same decade as each other and I am well aware of those "parameters" you seem to suggest. Those parameters are simply a reflection of the fact that the country has become more liberal over time, and especially in the last 45-50 years. It is continuing to become more liberal as the years pass by, much like "Old Europe" is today. That is extremely unfortunate, and many conservatives like myself would like to see that trend reversed, and not just on the issue of human life.
And BTW, I live in California.
Ok, if it isn't going to change either way, why are you so eager to see a pro-abortion monopoly in both parties?
Some things can change such as federal funding of abortions overseas and federal funding for embryonic stem cell policy.
Just what conservative principles to you believe in?